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In lugnet.admin.database, dulcaoin@alumni.cse.ucsc.edu (Joshua Delahunty)
writes:
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>
> What you see now under "Trains" is what was remaining in that category
> the last time a true reindexing occurred. They no longer read
> "Trains" because after posting my announcement last night, I went to
> fix the 9v stuff, and found those few 4.5v items mixed in, and fixed
> all of them.
>
> AFAIKnew, Todd has an indexing cron job that should have fixed this
> problem, but my understanding of what it would be able to do seems to
> be off. I would have assumed that it would have cleared these out by
> now.
Awrighty, I just expanded the responsibilities of the cron job so that it
now wipes out obsolete links/references in addition to reindexing new ones
(...shouldda just done this originally, come to think of it).
> [...]
>
> Except: (I know what you're going to say) that really stinks. We need
> a way to show ALL trains, no matter what the product line is. I'm not
> sure how to make this happen, other than Todd adding the product line
> and theme fields to his fuzzy search. Right now, "Trains" as a search
> only returns items with "Trains" in the product name, and that's not
> good enough. So this is something to fix. Adding the field to the
> search would be an interim solution, until such time as Pause gets the
> fuzzy category system he's working on.
Technically, in terms of the name "Pause," it won't ever get that...but what
it turns into definitely will. You'll be able to go to a "trains" page and
explore subcategories or look at whole listings, and (alternatively) you'll
also be able to search for "trains" and get a list of category matches (9v
Trains, 4.5v Trains, 12v Trains, DUPLO Trains, etc.) I don't think there'll
be many more code changes to the current Pause-DB interface, which is simply
a transitory interface put in place as a stopgap for the real shebang coming
later.
> Note that a ?theme=Trains search has never done what you're looking
> for, as quite a few sets now in the three product-line values used to
> be in totally different product lines altogether (such as Universal).
Yeah. For this we'll need to have fuzzy thingies on sets and stuff, and a
special "trains" (uncapitalized) object/category, as opposed to the "LEGO
System Trains" (capitalized) product-line-based object/category.
> Maybe I can get access to the up-front theme pages (which are not
> linked to the database),
I'm not sure I know what you mean by "theme pages" (can you give a URL
example)? Do you mean pages like like--?
http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?theme=12v+Trains
and
http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?theme=Space,Blacktron+II
Because those pages are just built on-the-fly by looking up in a reverse-
index of matching themes on a string-based field. Anytime you add a new
theme in the set data fields, it'll automagically appear as a new "page" and
anytime you remove the last instance of a given theme-name in the set data
fields, it'll automagically (now) disappear.
> and can, at the very least, get an
> all-encompassing list for trains set up there (but that wouldn't be
> live data).
>
> Let's see what Space Boy has to say about all this...
Hmm. More questions. Always more questions. :)
How desirable is it *really* to have a list of all trains sets (9v + 4.5v +
12v + etc.) on a single page, and how soon is it really helpful versus the
hassle of going to 3+ separate pages for now?
--Todd
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| (...) In another thread we're talking about not confusing the mundanes. If I were a mundane I would NOT know that there were three voltages and it would be best if there were a way that selecting trains returned all trains regardless of voltage. (...) (26 years ago, 28-Mar-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.admin.database)
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| (...) Nope. I mean (URL) (...) Larry Answered: ------ In another thread we're talking about not confusing the mundanes. If I were a mundane I would NOT know that there were three voltages and it would be best if there were a way that selecting (...) (26 years ago, 28-Mar-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.admin.database)
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| (...) 12v Trains is two words. All three (9, 4.5, 12) are. The fact that a match on theme=Trains works at all is because the indices have not gotten cleaned up yet; most all items were first "themed" at Trains, with the secondary characteristic set (...) (26 years ago, 18-Mar-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.admin.database)
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