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Re: 12V train early 70th
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lugnet.trains, lugnet.admin.database
Date: 
Sun, 28 Mar 1999 08:30:05 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.database, dulcaoin@alumni.cse.ucsc.edu (Joshua Delahunty) wrote:

Maybe I can get access to the up-front theme pages (which are not
linked to the database),

Todd Lehman wrote:
I'm not sure I know what you mean by "theme pages" (can you give a URL
example)?  Do you mean pages like like--?

   http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?theme=12v+Trains
and
   http://www.lugnet.com/pause/search/?theme=Space,Blacktron+II

Because those pages are just built on-the-fly by looking up in a reverse-
index of matching themes on a string-based field.  Anytime you add a new
theme in the set data fields, it'll automagically appear as a new "page" and
anytime you remove the last instance of a given theme-name in the set data
fields, it'll automagically (now) disappear.

Nope.  I mean
http://www.lugnet.com/pause/trains.html

and can, at the very least, get an
all-encompassing list for trains set up there (but that wouldn't be
live data).

Let's see what Space Boy has to say about all this...

Hmm.  More questions.  Always more questions.  :)

How desirable is it *really* to have a list of all trains sets (9v + 4.5v +
12v + etc.) on a single page, and how soon is it really helpful versus the
hassle of going to 3+ separate pages for now?

Larry Answered:
------
In another thread we're talking about not confusing the mundanes. If I
were a mundane I would NOT know that there were three voltages and it
would be best if there were a way that selecting trains returned all
trains regardless of voltage.
------

This is an important point.  Unfortunately, my solution doesn't
really address it.  The "front page" solution would allow Trainheads to
view the entire trains range in one place, but it doesn't support the
many folks who might type "trains" into the search box, either directly
on LUGNET or from myriad other contact points from around the web.

A stopgap that I'd like to see implemented that might just address this
would look something like:

Search as you do now, examine the results.

If there are less than <threshhold> matches at <threshhold percentage>
or greater, then:
Add to the search all records matched by using the typed expression as
a word-match on product-line or theme names.

Where <threshhold> might be 5, and <threshhold percentage> might be .9
or .95 or even 1.0.

So if someone types "trains", the initial (current) search would return
31 matches, the best being only at 83%.  So you'd then search again
(since you didn't get -- say -- 5 matches at 90% or greater), adding in
any additional records where the product-line or theme contains the term
"trains".  In this particular case, you'd end up with all the train sets
(including DUPLO trains).  (I'm actually a little surprised that product
lines and themes aren't searched as-is in this type of search).

Another workaround (good only for already expert Trainheads who only
just want to see all trains in one listing) is to allow regular
expressions in the ?theme= specification when searching.

-- joshua



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  Re: 12V train early 70th
 
(...) the dynamically generated lists -- although the paragraphs of commentary ought to be preserved in the transition. But if you wanted to pull down a copy of the .html page and modify it, I'll install an updated version. (...) --Todd (26 years ago, 28-Mar-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.admin.database)
  Re: 12V train early 70th
 
(...) Yeah, that's no fun, is it. I think what ought to happen when you type "trains" into a top-level search box is that you get back a number of train categories (one encapsulating all, and then one for each of 9v, 4.5v, 12v, and DUPLO trains, (...) (26 years ago, 28-Mar-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.admin.database)

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(...) Awrighty, I just expanded the responsibilities of the cron job so that it now wipes out obsolete links/references in addition to reindexing new ones (...shouldda just done this originally, come to think of it). (...) Technically, in terms of (...) (26 years ago, 27-Mar-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.admin.database)

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