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Re: The Future of Trains // Wishlist
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Date: 
Fri, 5 Oct 2007 00:03:52 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Don Cox wrote:
In lugnet.trains, Holger Matthes wrote:
Hi Eric,
Hi Bryan,
Hi all,

you are right, we are under NDA and I will not comment on any posting either
positive or negative about the train announcement.

We AFOL insiders will read all theses posts and we will transport any suggestion
into our internal forums. And yes, some thoughts and ideas sound familiar and
others are new for us.

It would be helpful, if we can set up a public "wishlist" for the new train
system where only uncommented wishes are posted. Later someone could set up a
poll to find out the most desired components for a new train system.

All, remember we are still talking about a toy train which is abused (in a
positive way) by LEGO fans to set up huge model-train layouts.

Point of view?  I enjoy working with my LEGO trains.  I put out a lot of work in
'abusing' my trains to do a show, both for the visitor and mine own pleasure.
The model Railroad Hobby is the largest Hobby in the world. It is done almost in
every country and by trainheads of every walk of life.  Do we, as model train
operators consider that we are 'abusing', even in a positive way,the trains we
run?  Do we consider that we are 'abusing the manufacture of our model trains
when we purchase large amounts of scenery and building material to give our
layouts a life-like appearance?  Do we 'abuse' the manufacture when we do shows
for the public to enjoy?

Yes you do 'abuse' the system in the sense that Holger means. LEGO trains are
designed for children, not hobby use. As much as this may be frustrating and
there may be good reasons for TLG to support the 'abuse' of their system they
are not a niche manufacturer and cannot do it when it is underprofitable.

I understand that a lot of us have a lot of emotional and physical capital
invested in 9V trains and the hobby aspects of them. This does not mean we
should forget what TLG's primary purpose is: selling *toys* to children.

The challenge for the future of trains is to have a place in this world wide
Hobby.  Plastic, battery powered trains IS considered a 'toy' by the model
railroad clubs.  It took us many years of 'abuse' and hard work to get into and
be recognized by Model Railroading.  Has all this been for nought?

--snip--

Don Cox     GtwLUG     Lugnet#1239     St. Louis, Mo. USA


From my understanding there are plenty of people running 'antiquated' systems in
Model Railroading. With LEGO you are still getting new options from the rest of
the range, just not directly for the motors and track (which haven't been
developed for many, many years anyway). Undoubtadely running 9V trains will
become harder as motors need to be replaced and other electrical components
require maintenence but the quality of LEGO products is typically high enough
that this maintenence should be minimal.

We can sling mud all we like or, far preferably, we can try to work out how we
can move forward. The decision has been made and no amount of complaining or
sideline justiification is going to change it. It is now time to look to the
future.

Tim



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(...) Point of view? I enjoy working with my LEGO trains. I put out a lot of work in 'abusing' my trains to do a show, both for the visitor and mine own pleasure. The model Railroad Hobby is the largest Hobby in the world. It is done almost in every (...) (17 years ago, 4-Oct-07, to lugnet.trains)  

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