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Re: Motorizing 9V switch points (translation from french)
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Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:35:25 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Philippe Label wrote:
   Hello all,

Here is a small review about the motorization of 9V switch points prepared originally in French for friends from Freelug. With the help of Didier Enjary for translation, Gaël Frazier for a final proofreading and Jean-Louis Bergamo (webmaster of Freelug) for publication. Thank you guys :-)

http://www.freelug.org/article.php3?id_article=186

Enjoy,

Philippe “Frogleap” Label

Thanks very much for the comprehensive analysis, Philippe.

A compendium like yours inspires us all to build other designs, incorporate new ideas with our existing ones, and move the whole effort forward. After reading your reviews, my curiousity’s piqued towards another semaphore design based on Chris Alano’s drive mechanism, with further extension of the drive lever.

Here’s a link to my latest design, which I used at our last show: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/recipmotor/update-10-17-03/switch.jpg

...and the associated .mpd file: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/recipmotor/update-10-17-03/switch.mpd

Credit goes to Chris Alano for the drive mechanism.

Ed


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Re: Motorizing 9V switch points (translation from french)
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Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:01:22 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Ed McGlynn wrote:
   In lugnet.trains, Philippe Label wrote:
   Here is a small review about the motorization of 9V switch points prepared originally in French for friends from Freelug. With the help of Didier Enjary for translation, Gaël Frazier for a final proofreading and Jean-Louis Bergamo (webmaster of Freelug) for publication. Thank you guys :-) http://www.freelug.org/article.php3?id_article=186...
Thanks very much for the comprehensive analysis, Philippe.

A compendium like yours inspires us all to build other designs, incorporate new ideas with our existing ones, and move the whole effort forward. After reading your reviews, my curiousity’s piqued towards another semaphore design based on Chris Alano’s drive mechanism, with further extension of the drive lever.

Here’s a link to my latest design, which I used at our last show: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/recipmotor/update-10-17-03/switch.jpg

...and the associated .mpd file: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/recipmotor/update-10-17-03/switch.mpd

Credit goes to Chris Alano for the drive mechanism.

Ed

Hi Ed,

This is the simplest power unit I’ve ever seen! I’ll have to build it ASAP. Thanks a lot,

Philippe.


Subject: 
Re: Motorizing 9V switch points (translation from french)
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Date: 
Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:31:20 GMT
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...snip...

   Here’s a link to my latest design, which I used at our last show: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/recipmotor/update-10-17-03/switch.jpg

...and the associated .mpd file: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/recipmotor/update-10-17-03/switch.mpd

Credit goes to Chris Alano for the drive mechanism.

Ed, the .mpd file is missing a part. MLCAD tells me file X169.dat is missing! I *think* its the rubber band you used for the design but I’m not sure. Could it be possible for you to update the .mpd file. Thanks



-AHui

A&M LWorks




Subject: 
Re: Motorizing 9V switch points (translation from french)
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Date: 
Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:38:55 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Ahui Herrera wrote:
   ...snip...

   Here’s a link to my latest design, which I used at our last show: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/recipmotor/update-10-17-03/switch.jpg

...and the associated .mpd file: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/recipmotor/update-10-17-03/switch.mpd

Credit goes to Chris Alano for the drive mechanism.

Ed, the .mpd file is missing a part. MLCAD tells me file X169.dat is missing! I *think* its the rubber band you used for the design but I’m not sure. Could it be possible for you to update the .mpd file. Thanks



-AHui

Ahui -

You can find the missing x169.dat file here, thanks to Orion Pobursky: http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dat/parts/?n=4282

If you can’t locate it, I can send it to you.

That’s the Technic 1x2 Liftarm that I use in the model’s Lever.dat subfile. It’s a critical element, as it connects the floating, rotatable axle with the pin attached to the peice that drives the switch mechanism...a picture would do better here, but I’m an FTX clutz.

Ed


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Re: Motorizing 9V switch points (translation from french)
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Date: 
Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:37:50 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Ed McGlynn wrote:
   In lugnet.trains, Ahui Herrera wrote:
   ...snip...

   Here’s a link to my latest design, which I used at our last show: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/recipmotor/update-10-17-03/switch.jpg

...and the associated .mpd file: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/recipmotor/update-10-17-03/switch.mpd

Credit goes to Chris Alano for the drive mechanism.

Ed, the .mpd file is missing a part. MLCAD tells me file X169.dat is missing! I *think* its the rubber band you used for the design but I’m not sure. Could it be possible for you to update the .mpd file. Thanks



-AHui

Ahui -

You can find the missing x169.dat file here, thanks to Orion Pobursky: http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dat/parts/?n=4282

If you can’t locate it, I can send it to you.

That’s the Technic 1x2 Liftarm that I use in the model’s Lever.dat subfile. It’s a critical element, as it connects the floating, rotatable axle with the pin attached to the peice that drives the switch mechanism...a picture would do better here, but I’m an FTX clutz.

Ed


AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

Unoffical parts! Unoffical parts!

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

Thanks for telling me where to get it. =)


-AHui

A&M LWorks




Subject: 
Re: Motorizing 9V switch points (translation from french)
Newsgroups: 
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Date: 
Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:24:43 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Ahui Herrera wrote:
   In lugnet.trains, Ed McGlynn wrote:
   In lugnet.trains, Ahui Herrera wrote:
   ...snip...

   Here’s a link to my latest design, which I used at our last show: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/recipmotor/update-10-17-03/switch.jpg

...and the associated .mpd file: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/recipmotor/update-10-17-03/switch.mpd

Credit goes to Chris Alano for the drive mechanism.

Ed, the .mpd file is missing a part. MLCAD tells me file X169.dat is missing! I *think* its the rubber band you used for the design but I’m not sure. Could it be possible for you to update the .mpd file. Thanks



-AHui

Ahui -

You can find the missing x169.dat file here, thanks to Orion Pobursky: http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dat/parts/?n=4282

If you can’t locate it, I can send it to you.

That’s the Technic 1x2 Liftarm that I use in the model’s Lever.dat subfile. It’s a critical element, as it connects the floating, rotatable axle with the pin attached to the peice that drives the switch mechanism...a picture would do better here, but I’m an FTX clutz.

Ed


AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

Unoffical parts! Unoffical parts!

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

Thanks for telling me where to get it. =)


-AHui


...dang - caught again! Well, I just think of them as “pre-official” parts. :^)

By the way, I posted instructions here:

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/recipmotor/update-10-17-03/instructions/assembly01.jpg

...just modify file name assembly01.jpg through assembly35.jpg.

Folder after moderation: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=65656

I should also point out that the yellow 9v point lever part needs to be replaced with 2496.dat, Wheel Trolley to keep the lever from slipping up and away from the switch plate teeth during actuation.

Ed


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Re: Motorizing 9V switch points (translation from french)
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Date: 
Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:37:28 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Ed McGlynn wrote:
   In lugnet.trains, Philippe Label wrote:
   http://www.freelug.org/article.php3?id_article=186
Here’s a link to my latest design, which I used at our last show: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/recipmotor/update-10-17-03/switch.jpg ...and the associated .mpd file: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/recipmotor/update-10-17-03/switch.mpd Credit goes to Chris Alano for the drive mechanism.

Hi Ed,

I went on testing your proposal. It works so fine, I planned to introduce Amaury Jacquot’s modification of Chris Alano’s mechanism you use to reduce a little bit the footprint (expecially the width) of the power unit. You will see that Amaury tried to put the power unit closer to the switch point for this purpose. I try to get a block that can fit in 16 studs which is a standard inter-track space. Actually it should fit in 12 studs, so there are 2 studs free on each side of the track to be safe with large engines and long wagons. Here is an evolution of your proposal with these constraints in mind. I am not completely happy with that one because it should be reduced one stud more to fit my expectations. Any help will be welcome.

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/frogleap/Trains/Planches/bloc-ca.emc.aj-71427.ldr

All the best,

Philippe


Subject: 
Re: Motorizing 9V switch points (translation from french)
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Date: 
Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:23:55 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Philippe Label wrote: ...
   standard inter-track space. Actually it should fit in 12 studs, so there are 2 studs free on each side of the track to be safe with large engines and long
...

Ooops, not 16 but 8, and not 12 but 4 :/ Sorry.

Philippe.


Subject: 
Re: Motorizing 9V switch points (translation from french)
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Date: 
Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:36:55 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Philippe Label wrote:
   In lugnet.trains, Ed McGlynn wrote:
   In lugnet.trains, Philippe Label wrote:
   http://www.freelug.org/article.php3?id_article=186
Here’s a link to my latest design, which I used at our last show: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/recipmotor/update-10-17-03/switch.jpg ...and the associated .mpd file: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ejmcglynn/recipmotor/update-10-17-03/switch.mpd Credit goes to Chris Alano for the drive mechanism.

Hi Ed,

I went on testing your proposal. It works so fine, I planned to introduce Amaury Jacquot’s modification of Chris Alano’s mechanism you use to reduce a little bit the footprint (expecially the width) of the power unit. You will see that Amaury tried to put the power unit closer to the switch point for this purpose. I try to get a block that can fit in 16 studs which is a standard inter-track space. Actually it should fit in 12 studs, so there are 2 studs free on each side of the track to be safe with large engines and long wagons. Here is an evolution of your proposal with these constraints in mind. I am not completely happy with that one because it should be reduced one stud more to fit my expectations. Any help will be welcome.

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/frogleap/Trains/Planches/bloc-ca.emc.aj-71427.ldr

All the best,

Philippe

Phillipe -

So far so good - I need to do an actual build of your model to get a better feel of the mechanism you’ve designed, but it looks great. There may be some optimization left to do on it, so I’ll give it a go and let’s see what we get!

Understood about the dimensions you’re shooting for. Thanks, Ed


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