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EBKD November
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November Class Shuttle

The November was designed to transport high ranking officials from one front to another. It has overly enlarged engines for extreme speeds, as well as amenities for long flights, such as an on-board toilet, fold out bed, and coffee maker. It has a standard high power sub-fusion generator, and a back-up light power sub-fusion generator.

The November also carries enough sensor and communication equipement to serve in a command-ship function.

The Ship is currently carrying Political Commissar Eastman, one of the most prestigious Commissars in the entire Eastern Block (she previously served with Jr.Marshal Hoffman on-board the Kalashnikov before the Venus Incident that left the Kal severely damaged and out of commission).

Yes, it is inspired by a certain Rick Hallman’s ship. Also, once you go Studless it is SO HARD to go back ;) - Happy thanksgiving everyone!)

-Jr.Marshal Hoffman
Eastern Block Cosmos Directorate, #1168




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In lugnet.space, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
   <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=64229

November Class Shuttle

The November was designed to transport high ranking officials from one front to another. It has overly enlarged engines for extreme speeds, as well as amenities for long flights, such as an on-board toilet, fold out bed, and coffee maker. It has a standard high power sub-fusion generator, and a back-up light power sub-fusion generator.

The November also carries enough sensor and communication equipement to serve in a command-ship function.

The Ship is currently carrying Political Commissar Eastman, one of the most prestigious Commissars in the entire Eastern Block (she previously served with Jr.Marshal Hoffman on-board the Kalashnikov before the Venus Incident that left the Kal severely damaged and out of commission).

Yes, it is inspired by a certain Rick Hallman’s ship. Also, once you go Studless it is SO HARD to go back ;) - Happy thanksgiving everyone!)

-Jr.Marshal Hoffman
Eastern Block Cosmos Directorate, #1168

<http://mocpages.com/home.php/273?r=437439362

Looking good Lenny....any chance for some deep links to satisfy the impatiently curious?

Cheers, -Gil


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Re: EBKD November
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In lugnet.space, Gil Shaw wrote:
   In lugnet.space, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
   <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=64229

November Class Shuttle • -snip-

Looking good Lenny....any chance for some deep links to satisfy the impatiently curious?

Hey Gil,

Here you go:

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/glencaer/EasternBlock/November/nov01.jpg

01 thru 14, 17 thru 22

-Lenny


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Re: EBKD November
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In lugnet.space, Leonard Hoffman wrote:

   http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/glencaer/EasternBlock/November/nov01.jpg

01 thru 14, 17 thru 22

Well done, Lenny. It definitely looks very shuttle-y. I like the over-strengthened landing gear. That really says EB to me. The fold-out frap is cool too. It has a few too many antennae IMO.

The interior has lots of fun detail, but it seems like you could cram more stuff in there. You have lots of open floor space in the central areas of the ship. You could make more room in the cockpit if you pushed the pilot chairs up into the canopy areas... then you could put a couple more crew seats in, or maybe a big chair for the J. Mar.

Overall, I like it a lot. Well done.

-Grand Admiral
.space Curator




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Re: EBKD November
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In lugnet.space, Mark Sandlin wrote:
  
Well done, Lenny. It definitely looks very shuttle-y. I like the over-strengthened landing gear. That really says EB to me. The fold-out frap is cool too. It has a few too many antennae IMO.

The interior has lots of fun detail, but it seems like you could cram more stuff in there. You have lots of open floor space in the central areas of the ship. You could make more room in the cockpit if you pushed the pilot chairs up into the canopy areas... then you could put a couple more crew seats in, or maybe a big chair for the J. Mar.

Overall, I like it a lot. Well done.


Basically a big ditto on most of what Mark said...except for the antennae. It needs more. :)

Perhaps another possibility would be to move the cockpit chairs and console back and spread them out a bit more..each pilot surrounded by displays and such. Just thinking it might give more purpose to the space.

Just a thought.

Great stuff!

Cheers, -Gil


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Re: EBKD November
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In lugnet.space, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
  

November Class Shuttle

The November was designed to transport high ranking officials from one front to another. It has overly enlarged engines for extreme speeds, as well as amenities for long flights, such as an on-board toilet, fold out bed, and coffee maker. It has a standard high power sub-fusion generator, and a back-up light power sub-fusion generator.

The November also carries enough sensor and communication equipement to serve in a command-ship function.

The Ship is currently carrying Political Commissar Eastman, one of the most prestigious Commissars in the entire Eastern Block (she previously served with Jr.Marshal Hoffman on-board the Kalashnikov before the Venus Incident that left the Kal severely damaged and out of commission).

Yes, it is inspired by a certain Rick Hallman’s ship. Also, once you go Studless it is SO HARD to go back ;) - Happy thanksgiving everyone!)


Great shuttle Lenny. I really like the big engines. I bet she’s a fast one. Hidden weapons are always a plus.

Where’s the second generator?

You’ve done the directorate proud.

Happy turkey day to you too.

-Captain John “aka Mark Mueller”
Founder and Chairman of StarBrew Brewing Co.




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Re: EBKD November
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Hi Lenny,

Great job you’ve done there. A couple of little nitpicks though;
  1. She has nice smooth lines but they kind of make for a boring exterior. Perhaps she would be a tad more interesting with some scanner type greebs or something around the for’ard section (especially above the cockpit).

  2. The greebs in the upper panel seem a bit sparse - they could be a little more crowded to me.

  3. I think the interior would be more appropriate with a bulkhead between the main cabin and the reactor/engine/technical systems in the rear. If you are going to be transporting VIPs around then they aren’t gonna want to look at that kind of stuff, utilitarian or not.

   Yes, it is inspired by a certain Rick Hallman’s ship. Also, once you go Studless it is SO HARD to go back ;) - Happy thanksgiving everyone!)

I completely agree with you on the studless thing. I haven’t turned back yet!

Keep up the good work,

Zac


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Re: EBKD November
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In lugnet.space, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
   Yes, it is inspired by a certain Rick Hallman’s ship.

Pointy! I feel special. :)

Now for my comments... :)

I love the huge-arse engines. Big and beefy... I love the doors in the hull, i almost didnt notice it at all! Very nice the way the technogarb is hidden away. I also love the way it looks like a RV inside. mmmm. me likes. I agree with Mark though, it needs more inside. I would have put more machinary by the reactor and moved everything else up about 4-6 studs.

The Landing gear do rock btw. bigley. might do that on my next small ship. Or will i? mwhahahaa. Also too many antennae.

All in all, I give it a 9/10, could be a little better, but not very much! Kudos Lenny.


Eastern Block fans: Watch out for my new fighter craft... coming soon!




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Re: EBKD November
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In lugnet.space, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
  

November Class Shuttle

The November was designed to transport high ranking officials from one front to another. It has overly enlarged engines for extreme speeds, as well as amenities for long flights, such as an on-board toilet, fold out bed, and coffee maker. It has a standard high power sub-fusion generator, and a back-up light power sub-fusion generator.

The November also carries enough sensor and communication equipement to serve in a command-ship function.

The Ship is currently carrying Political Commissar Eastman, one of the most prestigious Commissars in the entire Eastern Block (she previously served with Jr.Marshal Hoffman on-board the Kalashnikov before the Venus Incident that left the Kal severely damaged and out of commission).

Yes, it is inspired by a certain Rick Hallman’s ship. Also, once you go Studless it is SO HARD to go back ;) - Happy thanksgiving everyone!)

-Jr.Marshal Hoffman
Eastern Block Cosmos Directorate, #1168



Smooth! For reasons which should be apparent within 5 minutes of this post, I really like this shuttle. The whole shape and execution just screams “Shuttle-y!”, and what I really love is the interior. I’ve yet to create an interior that I’ve even remotely proud of, so the one you’ve produced here makes me quite jealous.

I have to agree with the comment made about the “boring” look of the outside hull. To me, it’s just too repetitive to be “Supercool!” That’s not to say it’s bad; it totally isn’t, it just doesn’t give a lot for the eye to partake of.

I think the comments about the use of space just behind the cockpit are right on. It needs to be used somehow. Prime retail.

Again, great work.

--Ryan W. Tis the season to be E.B...


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Re: EBKD November
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Lenny,
     I'm going to disagree with those who've pointed out the outer hull as
'plain'... I like it, because it looks heavily shielded, and has a 'real' feel
to it, as if this is something that would really be built this way.
     I'll agree with the interior stuff to a degree, though.  I think what
you've got in there is pretty danged cool, but I wanna see more.
     Neat shuttle!!

Peace and Long Life,
Tw0nst3r


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Re: EBKD November
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In lugnet.space, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
  

November Class Shuttle


Nice work dude, this is very sleek. I like the SNOT slopes to keep it all smooth and the use of red tile striping to liven it up. Those antennae don’t look right to me, though - I don’t have a problem with how many there are, it’s just their slight curvature gives it a look which seems a bit organic and out-of-place to me (like the ship’s growing whiskers or something!). Other than that, it’s great work.

Cheers,




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In lugnet.space, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
  


Dude! Very cool! I really like the inside out of this. It has a great spacey inside- cramped and greebled. Very utilitarian. I like the outside of it too, although I’d have to agree with the statement that the antenna look a little out of place, one or two are okay but all of those detract from the idustrial look of it. Other then that, I like the outside a lot. It just works, maybe a little bare looking but it works just fine for this type of MOC.

Only one complaint: the toilet isn’t covered! What happened to privacy? :)

Actually one other complaint, but not about the MOC. The images look very grainy, almost as though you used a very high ISO sensitivity on a standard P&S camera. I’d reccomend to use the lowest ISO number possible and stay of the ‘auto’ setting to eliminate the distracting ‘noise’/grain.

-JHK


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In lugnet.space, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
  


I have nothing really to add other than to say Cool ship (although I could take or leave the antenna array) and Hey! you cut your hair! Will the Jr. Marshall be following suit?

Cheers,

Allister


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In lugnet.space, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
  


Cool ship, Leonard! I like your use of slopes. Your EB stuff just keeps growing more sophisticated!

Love, Sylvi


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In lugnet.space, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
   Yes, it is inspired by a certain Rick Hallman’s ship. Also, once you go Studless it is SO HARD to go back ;) - Happy thanksgiving everyone!)

ah, beautiful design work, even the bottom is well done.

STUDLESS RULZ!

which Hallman ship? url?

only constructive crit: the lack of real ‘engines’. or even a decent hover-generator. there needs to be some machinery to make its method of lift believable...

I think what would’ve workd nicely would be to wall off the rear section of the interior and just have that rear third be ALL engine/fieldgen/whatever

-p


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