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Hi Marco,
I haven't done any vision processing yet, but plan to get into it sometime this
summer. In the meantime, I've been casually scanning the web for related sites.
Here's one you may find useful:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/cil/ftp/html/vision.html
David Leeper (hopes this helps)
In lugnet.robotics, "Marco C." <marco@soporcel.pt> writes:
> Has anyone done a PC-side program to do some video analisys, resulting in
> op-code sending to RCX/CyberMaster action control ?
>
> I want to do a "target" follower PC program, sending op-codes to my pBrick
> (CyberMaster) to control the X and Y rotation of a video camera.
>
> I'm still waiting for an European version of XCam, so I'll do the first
> tests with a camcorder connected to my ATI All-in-Wonder PRO video-in.
>
> *First* I'll have to deal with the video frame grabbing, and frame
> analisys, so the program can detect the moving of a specified target, and
> instruct the pBrick acordingly to rotate the video-cam so that the target
> stays within the center of the image.
>
> er... has anyone done such a thing ?
>
> Are there any source-code examples or how-to's ?
>
> thxs :)
> ____________________
> Marco C. aka McViper
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Hi Reimer,
I've seen HALCON listed in
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/cil/ftp/html/vision.html
After checking Pong Suvan's software/dll's, I was going to check a couple
more site's, HALCON's included :)
Just downloaded (http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/psksvp/download.htm) and
tested the apps done by Pong Suvan to test/use/demonstrate his DLL's.
WOW ! :)
Looks like it has potencial for the kind of real-time processing I want to
implement in my CyberMaster+VideoCam project.
...so, tonight, I'll check HALCON's site :)
Thxs.
At 19:28 10-01-2000 GMT, Reimer Mellin wrote:
> I am a proponent for HALCON from mvtec.com. Although I have to admit that I
> am biased, as I have used HALCON during my thesis, its a very powerful
> environment. The number of available operators ranges from simple low-level
> image processing to high-level kalman filters and so on. Another prime
> feature is the usage of regions instead of images. A region is an abstract
> superclass of an image and can contain e.g. a list of lines, curves, objects
> etc. . Obviously this not only saves space, but allows a program to combine
> and interpret results more easily. The latest version has a VBA interface,
> so it should be very easy to whip up a little VB program.
>
> If I remember correctly, its essentially free for non-comercial use. check
> it out @ www.mvtec.com
>
> Cheers
> Reimer
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Marco C. aka McViper
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At 12:23 04-02-2000 -0500, Joel Katz wrote:
> Marco:
> You are correct that Halcon is a commercial offering. I understand
> that it is very highly regarded. One of the Premier offerings in the arena
> of Machine Vision is NIH Image, which is(or was) in the public domain. You
> can find it at:
>
> http://rsb.info.nih.gov/nih-image/Default.html
Thank you very much ! I'll check it out ASAP.
> visit our Web Site at >>> www.acuityimaging.com <<<
And I'll visit your web site too, ehehe ;)
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Marco C. aka McViper (Ok, so I don't own a MAC...)
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Hi :)
(recovering a "very" old lugnet.robotics thread about Robotic Vision
software for Mindstorms, predating the release of LEGO Vision Command)
I'm assuming that you're the same psksvp that made the Robotic Vision dll's
at
http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/psksvp/
(Try making a search on "Robotic Vision" or "psksvp" on the lugnet.robotics
and you'll see how old these threads are :)
Sorry but I can't resist making this question, since I "saw" you on
lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos:
Did you, or are you planning on using your vision library with LEGO bots ?
If so, are you planning on releasing working example code of it ?
Thxs ! :)
mc.
PS: Oh, and thxs for http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/psksvp/download.htm !
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:news-gateway@lugnet.com]On Behalf
> Of psksvp
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:04 PM
> To: lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos@lugnet.com
> Subject: Thread class
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>
> // Thread Class for Legos
> // By Pongsak Suvanpong
> // psksvp@ccs.neu.edu
> // use it anyway you'd like as long as this comment is here
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I have seen this program (NIH) at a workshop, and it was pretty incredible.
I checked on the PC version (Scion makes this) and it is very similar. It
says that it can measure (distances?) Could this be used as "vision" for a
robot? Could this be used to "tell" a robot where it is?
Lots of questions, and fairly excited about the future!
> Marco:
> You are correct that Halcon is a commercial offering. I understand
> that it is very highly regarded. One of the Premier offerings in the arena
> of Machine Vision is NIH Image, which is(or was) in the public domain. You
> can find it at:
>
> http://rsb.info.nih.gov/nih-image/Default.html
>
> My company sells a Mac Based Machine Vision product called Image Analyst
> and we've often been asked, why should I buy your product when I can get
> most of its capabilities for free in NIH Image. (You didn't hear that from
> me, though).
>
> --joel
>
> You wrote.
>
> > After checking Pong Suvan's apps/lib (http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/psksvp/),
> > I checked HALCON 5.2 (http://www.mvtec.com/), as was my intention.
> >
> > HALCON looks like a very powerfull, well documented, well done and easy to
> > use (through HDeveloper and/or the COM version) software package.
> >
> > Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but it has two disadvantages:
> >
> > 1) It looks like a *commercial* oriented package, well beyond my home Lego
> > robotic vision project. :(
> >
> > 2) It doesn't support general Video for Windows video cards/frame grabbers,
> > only specific models of frame grabbers.
> >
> > So, I'll keep searching for a while and if I can't find any good
> > alternative, I'll stick to freeware Pong Suvan's good solution.
> >
> > Any suggestions, links, etc.. on this subject are welcome to help me in
> > this project.
> >
> > thxs :)
>
>
>
>
>
> Joel Katz, Principal Engineer --- (603)-577-5895
> Acuity Imaging, 9 Townsend West, Nashua, NH 03063 --- (603)-577-5965 (FAX)
> visit our Web Site at >>> www.acuityimaging.com <<<
>
>
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Orlando, FL 32829
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