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Subject: 
Re: mindstorms NXT - 90 degree.
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lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Fri, 6 Jan 2006 23:31:28 GMT
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On Fri, January 6, 2006 11:16 am, Bob Kojima wrote:
I'm looking forward to stocking up on this new part:

<<http://klickitat.fial.com/bob/lego/newpart.jpg>>

it is so hard to do 90 degree studless conections.  i hope this part comes out
in sets before august.  service pack.... pick a brick... just dreaming....

bob


Ahhh.  The power of listening.

If you read the "wired" article, you'll know I made that piece.  Well, actually, we
made it.

We (the MUPs) were quick to point out (exactly like you did) that it's very hard to
do 90 degree studless connections (in the same plane).  We were told there is no
budget for making new pieces (beyond the NXT, sensors & motors).

Imagine our suprise a short time later, when they showed us the piece.

Given that it's now a "real" LEGO piece, I expect it will find its way into other sets.

If you look close, you can see how using one or two of these pieces and a couple
pins, there are MANY ways to connect beams together.

They wouldn't have made that piece, if they weren't listening to us (MUPs & AFOLs).

I've actually said this many times over the last year, but now everyone can see what
I mean...

They really are listening to us.

Steve


Subject: 
Re: mindstorms NXT - 90 degree.
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Sat, 7 Jan 2006 02:59:50 GMT
Original-From: 
Ignacio Martinez Vazquez <ignamv@gmail.*IHateSpam*com>
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They really are listening to us.

Steve

Epic.


Subject: 
Re: mindstorms NXT - 90 degree.
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Sat, 7 Jan 2006 03:18:13 GMT
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In lugnet.robotics, Steve Hassenplug wrote:

<snip>


They really are listening to us.

Steve

And I thank you for speaking for us.

If you were in the area, I'd give you a hug to thank you.

But alas....

:)

Dave K


Subject: 
Re: mindstorms NXT - 90 degree.
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.technic
Date: 
Sat, 7 Jan 2006 12:15:25 GMT
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In lugnet.robotics, Steve Hassenplug wrote:
On Fri, January 6, 2006 11:16 am, Bob Kojima wrote:
I'm looking forward to stocking up on this new part:

<<http://klickitat.fial.com/bob/lego/newpart.jpg>>

it is so hard to do 90 degree studless conections.  i hope this part comes out
in sets before august.  service pack.... pick a brick... just dreaming....

bob


Ahhh.  The power of listening.

If you read the "wired" article, you'll know I made that piece.  Well, actually, we
made it.

We (the MUPs) were quick to point out (exactly like you did) that it's very hard to
do 90 degree studless connections (in the same plane).

This is the exact reason why it took me so long to warm to studless
construction, When I gave it a try I found it very hard to build stable 3
dimensional boxes. Lately I've been using it successfully in two dimensions
allied to conventional bricks. But now we'll finally get that third dimension.
I'm surprised it took Lego this long to fix the problem and only when an
outsider pointed it out.

We were told there is no
budget for making new pieces (beyond the NXT, sensors & motors).

Imagine our suprise a short time later, when they showed us the piece.

Given that it's now a "real" LEGO piece, I expect it will find its way into other sets.

If you look close, you can see how using one or two of these pieces and a couple
pins, there are MANY ways to connect beams together.

They wouldn't have made that piece, if they weren't listening to us (MUPs & AFOLs).

I've actually said this many times over the last year, but now everyone can see what
I mean...

They really are listening to us.

Steve


Subject: 
Re: mindstorms NXT - 90 degree.
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.technic
Date: 
Sun, 8 Jan 2006 00:38:37 GMT
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On 1/7/06, Lane <Steve> wrote:

I'm surprised it took Lego this long to fix the problem and only when an
outsider pointed it out.


Not that hard really -
Most of the studless sets I have played with are not beam type
constructions in 3D.  They all tend to be layers of 2D beams pinned
together like sandwiches.

If you look at most of the new studless technic sets the large
majority of studless beans run in the front-to-back planes with the
holes to the left and right.  I'm guessing it is because this is one
of easier ways to design studless structured...consider it a bunch of
slices through the desired model, then stack them together.

-Rob A>


Subject: 
Re: mindstorms NXT - 90 degree.
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Sun, 8 Jan 2006 01:54:35 GMT
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In lugnet.robotics, Steve Hassenplug wrote:

They really are listening to us.

   LEGO, thank you for listening, in ways we never suspected... MUPs,
Ambassadors, AFOLs (you know who you are), thank you for speaking for us. Dave,
I'll give him a hug for you the next time I see him.

   Well, if I can stop pumping him for information for a second, anyway...

--
Brian Davis


Subject: 
Re: mindstorms NXT - 90 degree.
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.technic
Date: 
Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:05:17 GMT
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In lugnet.technic, Rob Antonishen <rob.antonishen@gmail.com> wrote:

On 1/7/06, Lane <Steve> wrote:

I'm surprised it took Lego this long to fix the problem and only when an
outsider pointed it out.


Not that hard really -
Most of the studless sets I have played with are not beam type
constructions in 3D.  They all tend to be layers of 2D beams pinned
together like sandwiches.

If you look at most of the new studless technic sets the large
majority of studless beans run in the front-to-back planes with the
holes to the left and right.  I'm guessing it is because this is one
of easier ways to design studless structured...consider it a bunch of
slices through the desired model, then stack them together.

Or do what I do. Don't bother with (entirely) studless, and buy secondhand
studded off Ebay or Bricklink.

Steve


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