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Subject: 
Re: I wish Lego made an "Anti-Backlash Gear"
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Date: 
Wed, 4 Apr 2001 04:52:15 GMT
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Steve Baker <SJBAKER1@avoidspamAIRMAIL.NET>
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Eric Sophie wrote:

The CD-Rom does not explaiin how to use this piece, but in an earlier post I
wrote:

Ok, this is called a "Slip Gear" or "Torque Gear" It is used to prevent over
rotation by means of an internal clutch, the 2.5 - 5.0 NCM I belive means
the range of operable force applied before the clutch disengages. Nano
Centemeter of force.

(I think we established that this is Newton centimeters - a force of between
two and a half and five Newtons applied at a distance of one centimeter will
cause the gear to slip...or half that at 2cm, a third at 3cm and so on).

They are really very handy if you can gear them for the proper application.

That's true - but I find they are almost always WAY too stiff for the
applications I have - by the time they've started to slip, the motor
has usually stalled - or ripped the robot to bits.

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Subject: 
Re: I wish Lego made an "Anti-Backlash Gear"
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Date: 
Wed, 4 Apr 2001 05:17:30 GMT
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Steve Baker wrote:

I find they are almost always WAY too stiff for the
applications I have - by the time they've started to slip, the motor
has usually stalled - or ripped the robot to bits.


Hmm interesting. I only have one clutch gear (the one that came with RIS
1.5), and it is too *loose* to really be at all functional. I've also
read that the clutch force tends to drop in them the more they are used.

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Micah J. Mabelitini - LUGNET #918
The University of Kentucky
SECC Middlesboro Academic Skills Resource Center
accutron@kih.net - http://www.users.kih.net/~micahx/

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: I wish Lego made an "Anti-Backlash Gear"
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Wed, 4 Apr 2001 05:27:24 GMT
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Yes they do lose a little, I guess we always knew that would be the case, I
hate to see you not use the gear if it's to loose, reurn it for a new one if
you decide somthing really needs it. Also I consider this gear a "back-up"
in preventing mechanical failure, System controll being the supervisor (RXC)

Eric


In lugnet.robotics, Micah J. Mabelitini writes:
Steve Baker wrote:

I find they are almost always WAY too stiff for the
applications I have - by the time they've started to slip, the motor
has usually stalled - or ripped the robot to bits.


Hmm interesting. I only have one clutch gear (the one that came with RIS
1.5), and it is too *loose* to really be at all functional. I've also
read that the clutch force tends to drop in them the more they are used.

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: I wish Lego made an "Anti-Backlash Gear"
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Wed, 4 Apr 2001 05:21:11 GMT
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Oh , right , Newtons , I was saying Nano centameters! thanks....I guess you
need a fair amount of gearing and distance to use these gears effectivly
along with opposing resistance, I love the way it works in the hand I
developed, infact in included a touch sensor in the thumb inorder to reverse
directions automatically, but the gear works so well, I often just rely on
timming, when using the Arm in an unofficial testing manner....Eric


In lugnet.robotics, sjbaker1@airmail.net writes:
Eric Sophie wrote:

The CD-Rom does not explaiin how to use this piece, but in an earlier post I
wrote:

Ok, this is called a "Slip Gear" or "Torque Gear" It is used to prevent over
rotation by means of an internal clutch, the 2.5 - 5.0 NCM I belive means
the range of operable force applied before the clutch disengages. Nano
Centemeter of force.

(I think we established that this is Newton centimeters - a force of between
two and a half and five Newtons applied at a distance of one centimeter will
cause the gear to slip...or half that at 2cm, a third at 3cm and so on).

They are really very handy if you can gear them for the proper application.

That's true - but I find they are almost always WAY too stiff for the
applications I have - by the time they've started to slip, the motor
has usually stalled - or ripped the robot to bits.

 

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