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Subject: 
Re: Brickshelf problems?
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Date: 
Tue, 25 Jun 2002 20:47:11 GMT
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Wow, what was the motivation behind this? Has there been a problem with some
of the images being loaded? What are the moderators checking for in the images?

What will be the estimated "turn around" time when pictures are uploaded?

Thanks,

jt


In lugnet.publish, Kevin Loch writes:
In lugnet.publish, Jude Beaudin writes:
I am unable to access anything related to the gallery on both Brickshelf and
Geekshelf. I keep getting 404 errors.


The Gallery system is temporarally offline while we install
the full-moderation function.  From now on all files will
be previewed by moderators before they can be viewed
on the website.  In addition, all previously uploaded
files will be moderated before they are available
again.  This will not affect existing deep-links which
continue to work at this time.

KL

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Brickshelf problems?
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lugnet.publish
Date: 
Tue, 25 Jun 2002 21:39:09 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, James Trobaugh writes:

What will be the estimated "turn around" time when pictures are uploaded?


Anywhere from 15 seconds to days.  It all depends on when a moderator
gets to it.  Brickshelf does not have the resources to have full-time
staff moderating the gallery.

KL

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: Brickshelf problems?
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lugnet.publish
Date: 
Tue, 25 Jun 2002 22:18:03 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, Kevin Loch writes:
In lugnet.publish, James Trobaugh writes:

What will be the estimated "turn around" time when pictures are uploaded?


Anywhere from 15 seconds to days.  It all depends on when a moderator
gets to it.  Brickshelf does not have the resources to have full-time
staff moderating the gallery.

KL

Kevin,

Can you please post the how's and why's of this change?

Thanks,

Jude

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: Brickshelf problems?
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.publish
Date: 
Tue, 25 Jun 2002 22:38:51 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, Kevin Loch writes:
In lugnet.publish, James Trobaugh writes:

What will be the estimated "turn around" time when pictures are uploaded?


Anywhere from 15 seconds to days.  It all depends on when a moderator
gets to it.  Brickshelf does not have the resources to have full-time
staff moderating the gallery.

KL

Does this mean you'd need volunteer moderators?  Or does the logistics of
having a volunteer staff of moderators prevent you from having one?  Or did I
miss a public call for help somewhere along the way?  I'm sure there would be
plenty of volunteers if you needed them...

--Anthony
http://www.ozbricks.com/ikros

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: Brickshelf problems?
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lugnet.publish
Date: 
Wed, 26 Jun 2002 13:47:23 GMT
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Kevin & All,

Anywhere from 15 seconds to days.  It all depends on when a moderator
gets to it.  Brickshelf does not have the resources to have full-time
staff moderating the gallery.

Well, if you ever need volunteers for moderating, I would like to help,
after providing such a great resource to me, and MichLUG, and the rest of
the LEGO community.

Scott S.
--

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Brickshelf problems?
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lugnet.publish
Date: 
Wed, 26 Jun 2002 14:02:35 GMT
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I suspect there may be brickshelf regulars who have no interest in posting
improper material.

Since brickshelf knows who's logged in to upload, why not have trusted
accounts. New users only become trusted after "n" good moderated uploads. If
an account is ever complained about, they go from trusted to moderated and
stay there without being able to earn their trusted status back.

I suspect this may reduce the moderator load a huge amount while maintaining
the integrity of the site and the immediacy of uploads for people who
respect it.

JB

In lugnet.publish, Kevin Loch writes:
In lugnet.publish, James Trobaugh writes:

What will be the estimated "turn around" time when pictures are uploaded?


Anywhere from 15 seconds to days.  It all depends on when a moderator
gets to it.  Brickshelf does not have the resources to have full-time
staff moderating the gallery.

KL

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Brickshelf problems?
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lugnet.publish
Date: 
Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:48:18 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, John Barnes writes:
I suspect there may be brickshelf regulars who have no interest in posting
improper material.

Since brickshelf knows who's logged in to upload, why not have trusted
accounts. New users only become trusted after "n" good moderated uploads. If
an account is ever complained about, they go from trusted to moderated and
stay there without being able to earn their trusted status back.

I suspect this may reduce the moderator load a huge amount while maintaining
the integrity of the site and the immediacy of uploads for people who
respect it.

I think they are going a little farther then necessary...

I think simple "Report this content" buttons would be fine. Let everyone be
a moderator. If the button is pressed the account or picture is held until
it is checked.

Dean

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Brickshelf problems?
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lugnet.publish
Date: 
Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:47:13 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, Dean Husby writes:

I think simple "Report this content" buttons would be fine. Let everyone be
a moderator. If the button is pressed the account or picture is held until
it is checked.


This is an outstanding idea!  Kevin, is this easily programmed?  At any
moment of the day, there are lots of responsible AFOLs checking out
Brickshelf.  I'm sure nothing bad would remain up for more than a minute.
You could make it so that once a folder was cleared the button would go
away--so, for instance, once Oliver's add spoof was cleared it wouldn't keep
getting flagged as questionable by people who didn't look closely enough.

Bruce

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Brickshelf problems?
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lugnet.publish
Date: 
Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:29:02 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, Bruce Hietbrink writes:
In lugnet.publish, Dean Husby writes:

I think simple "Report this content" buttons would be fine. Let everyone be
a moderator. If the button is pressed the account or picture is held until
it is checked.


This is an outstanding idea!  Kevin, is this easily programmed?  At any
moment of the day, there are lots of responsible AFOLs checking out
Brickshelf.  I'm sure nothing bad would remain up for more than a minute.
You could make it so that once a folder was cleared the button would go
away--so, for instance, once Oliver's add spoof was cleared it wouldn't keep
getting flagged as questionable by people who didn't look closely enough.

Bruce

Yes, that would be great.  The moderators wouldn't have to check every
image, and they would have plenty of time to look at the few questionable
images.  This would mean that any harmful images would be quickly delt with.
Again, Kevin, is this possible?

-JHK

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Brickshelf problems?
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Date: 
Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:21:42 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, Dean Husby writes:

I think simple "Report this content" buttons would be fine. Let everyone be
a moderator. If the button is pressed the account or picture is held until
it is checked.


This might work for off-topic items, but I don't think this would work for
inappropriate images.  In the most recent incident there was a fairly lengthy
discussion on BZ before I saw the pictures mentioned anywhere else, and the
pictures were apparently in a Bionicle folder (I didn't see them, that info
is from the discussion).  If the actual images appeared on the recent updates
page, it might work, but there are a lot of folders that very few people look
at.  Also, keep in mind that there are now thousands of kids who look at
Brickshelf.  Even if the picture is reported in the first minute, kids will
probably see it.

John

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Brickshelf problems?
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lugnet.publish
Date: 
Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:27:41 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, John Herre writes:

In the most recent incident there was a fairly lengthy
discussion on BZ before I saw the pictures mentioned anywhere else, and the
pictures were apparently in a Bionicle folder (I didn't see them, that info
is from the discussion).

<SNIP>

What is BZ? I woul dbe interested in reading that discussion.

Paul Sinasohn
LUGNET #115

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Brickshelf problems?
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lugnet.publish
Date: 
Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:40:34 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, Paul Sinasohn writes:
In lugnet.publish, John Herre writes:

In the most recent incident there was a fairly lengthy
discussion on BZ before I saw the pictures mentioned anywhere else, and the
pictures were apparently in a Bionicle folder (I didn't see them, that info
is from the discussion).

<SNIP>

What is BZ? I woul dbe interested in reading that discussion.


I think its the Bionicle Zone:
http://www.bzpower.com/

-Rob.

 

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