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In lugnet.pirates, Richie Dulin wrote:
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In lugnet.pirates, Kurt Baty wrote:
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To: Cmdr. Naval Weapons Development
RTN HQ. Galveston
From: Capt. Counter-Intelligence
Texas Rangers
We have intercepted communications coming out of the Mexican spy network
in and around Galveston. They are reporting on the noise of testing of “very
large” cannons and the large shipments of iron ore coming to Galveston from
Llano. They also report on someone named “Joneriksun” who they think is
involved. I don’t know what you are developing, but I hope it’s good
enough. Because it looks like we could soon be back to open war with Mexico.
Jack
On a small sand island in a bayou not to far from Galveston Secret testing
of one of the new cannons continues!
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=117737
why pirates? (recall what Sam Houston said about us)
so what do you think?
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I think that if you keep up the development, you’ll be attempting a
pirate-era moonshot before long!
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I am confused!?
The Texas Navy had a steam powered warship in 1838!
“Predating any self-propelled vessels built by the U.S. Navy, Zavala had the
distinction of becoming the first armed (steam) warship in North America.”
http://www.numa.net/articles/texas_naval_ship_zavala.html
Do you think my cannon design is wrong? I put my modeling date at 1845.
These big smooth cannons were under development at that time.
The “Oregon” gon started it off in 1843
I wish, I could find a picture of it!
For more info on Ericsson, “Oregon” gun, and the U.S.S. Princeton see:
http://www.northwestships.com/Oregon%20Gun.htm
but soon!
15 inch Dahlgren(s)
http://members.tripod.com/~ProlificPains/dahl.jpg
http://www.ijnhonline.org/howard_special/The_Guns_at_Filipstad_pics_docs/Brooklyn%20Navy%20Yard%2015-in%20Dahlgrens.jpg
http://www.ijnhonline.org/howard_special/The_Guns_at_Filipstad_pics_docs/15%20inch%20Dahlgren%20smoothbore.jpg
15 inch Rodmans
http://www.civilwarartillery.com/cannon/15inchCannons.jpg>
Armstrong
http://www.mmcwrt.org/images/ArmstrongGun.jpg
other models
http://www.dicannonworks.com/images/bottleE.jpg
http://www.cannon-mania.com/images/Rhodes/dg-fin.gif
Look at the HMS Warrior
http://www.stvincent.ac.uk/Heritage/Warrior/guns.html
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Roll on Columbiad! (But rightfully in Texas, not Florida!)
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I am just building some “what ifs” here for fun!!
all best
kurt
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In lugnet.pirates, Kurt Baty wrote:
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In lugnet.pirates, Richie Dulin wrote:
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In lugnet.pirates, Kurt Baty wrote:
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To: Cmdr. Naval Weapons Development
RTN HQ. Galveston
From: Capt. Counter-Intelligence
Texas Rangers
We have intercepted communications coming out of the Mexican spy network
in and around Galveston. They are reporting on the noise of testing of
“very large” cannons and the large shipments of iron ore coming to
Galveston from Llano. They also report on someone named “Joneriksun” who
they think is involved. I don’t know what you are developing, but I hope
it’s good enough. Because it looks like we could soon be back to open war
with Mexico.
Jack
On a small sand island in a bayou not to far from Galveston Secret testing
of one of the new cannons continues!
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=117737
why pirates? (recall what Sam Houston said about us)
so what do you think?
|
I think that if you keep up the development, you’ll be attempting a
pirate-era moonshot before long!
|
I am confused!?
The Texas Navy had a steam powered warship in 1838!
“Predating any self-propelled vessels built by the U.S. Navy, Zavala had the
distinction of becoming the first armed (steam) warship in North America.”
http://www.numa.net/articles/texas_naval_ship_zavala.html
Do you think my cannon design is wrong? I put my modeling date at 1845.
These big smooth cannons were under development at that time.
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No, No! Not wrong by any means! Pirate-era moonshot from gun development, is a
reference to Jules Verne’s From the Earth to the Moon.... where they attempted
a moonshot from a very large gun...
I’m not meaning to question your ballistics technology development!
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Roll on Columbiad! (But rightfully in Texas, not Florida!)
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I am just building some “what ifs” here for fun!!
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The very large gun for the moonshot was named Columbiad, and there was
considerable discussion (and public rallies) about whether it should be built in
Florida or Texas.
JV’s novel was set, iirc, shortly after the ACW, so with your 1845 developments,
you might just beat it!
Cheers
Richie Dulin
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In lugnet.pirates, Richie Dulin wrote:
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In lugnet.pirates, Kurt Baty wrote:
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In lugnet.pirates, Richie Dulin wrote:
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In lugnet.pirates, Kurt Baty wrote:
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To: Cmdr. Naval Weapons Development
RTN HQ. Galveston
From: Capt. Counter-Intelligence
Texas Rangers
We have intercepted communications coming out of the Mexican spy
network in and around Galveston. They are reporting on the noise of
testing of “very large” cannons and the large shipments of iron ore coming
to Galveston from Llano. They also report on someone named “Joneriksun”
who they think is involved. I don’t know what you are developing, but I
hope it’s good enough. Because it looks like we could soon be back to open
war with Mexico.
Jack
On a small sand island in a bayou not to far from Galveston Secret testing
of one of the new cannons continues!
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=117737
why pirates? (recall what Sam Houston said about us)
so what do you think?
|
I think that if you keep up the development, you’ll be attempting a
pirate-era moonshot before long!
|
I am confused!?
The Texas Navy had a steam powered warship in 1838!
“Predating any self-propelled vessels built by the U.S. Navy, Zavala had the
distinction of becoming the first armed (steam) warship in North America.”
http://www.numa.net/articles/texas_naval_ship_zavala.html
Do you think my cannon design is wrong? I put my modeling date at 1845.
These big smooth cannons were under development at that time.
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-snip-
No, No! Not wrong by any means! Pirate-era moonshot from gun development, is
a reference to Jules Verne’s From the Earth to the Moon.... where they
attempted a moonshot from a very large gun...
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OK!!
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I’m not meaning to question your ballistics technology development!
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Thanks, but you are allowed!
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Roll on Columbiad! (But rightfully in Texas, not Florida!)
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I am just building some “what ifs” here for fun!!
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The very large gun for the moonshot was named Columbiad, and there was
considerable discussion (and public rallies) about whether it should be built
in Florida or Texas.
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Actually Verne reused the name, in “From the Earth to the Moon” 1865.
see:
http://www.cwartillery.org/ve/seahow.html
Columbiad(s) are a little to small, ;^)
My cannon is in the 15 inch range.
So you can see how I missed your reference!
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JV’s novel was set, iirc, shortly after the ACW, so with your 1845
developments, you might just beat it!
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Verne may a have heard about or see pictures of the 20 inch and above guns
http://www.cwartillery.org/ve/dahlXXgray2.jpg
http://www.ijnhonline.org/howard_special/The_Guns_at_Filipstad_pics_docs/20-in%20Rodman%20side.jpg
kurt
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Hi Kurt
In lugnet.pirates, Kurt Baty wrote:
Um - I think the Texans might have been nosed out by the Royal Navy. :) The
British were using steam-powered gunboats on the St. Lawrence river and Lake
Ontario in the winter of 1837-1838 to counter what today would be called
terrorists attacking from the United States into British North America.
Regards,
Norbert Black
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In lugnet.pirates, Kurt Baty wrote:
That page is incorrect.
The first steam-powered armed warship in North America was
in fact Robert Fulton’s catamaran-hulled center-paddler
Demologos, completed in 1815 for the defence of New York and kept in service
by the US Navy until its destruction in an accident in 1829.
http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi156.htm
all best
LFB
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In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun wrote:
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In lugnet.pirates, Kurt Baty wrote:
That page is incorrect.
The first steam-powered armed warship in North America was
in fact Robert Fulton’s catamaran-hulled center-paddler
Demologos, completed in 1815 for the defence of New York and kept in
service by the US Navy until its destruction in an accident in 1829.
http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi156.htm
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I agree with Lindsay!
kurt
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