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Ahoy,
Both types of hull bow pieces have roughly 2x2 opeings in them.... what are
they for?
I originally thought they were either cannon ports or openings for anchors,
but the official LEGO models I've seen use them for neither.
It is possible, though awkward, to use one as a cannon port, but I haven't
found a satisfactory way to mount a 2x2 flag (or anything else, for that
matter) as a gunport lid.
I've plugged them with inverse slopes on my larger ships (with contrasting
2x3s to form the anchor point for the ratlines, or with hull-coloured 2x2s
and left as part of the hull).
They seem too low to be left open on a large ship...
Any ideas on why they're there, what they should be used for, how to mount a
gun port lid over them, or how to plug them neatly?
Cheers
Richie Dulin
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In lugnet.pirates, Richie Dulin writes:
> Ahoy,
>
> Both types of hull bow pieces have roughly 2x2 opeings in them.... what are
> they for?
>
> I originally thought they were either cannon ports or openings for anchors,
> but the official LEGO models I've seen use them for neither.
>
> It is possible, though awkward, to use one as a cannon port, but I haven't
> found a satisfactory way to mount a 2x2 flag (or anything else, for that
> matter) as a gunport lid.
In both early models of ships, the cannons are placed at the same level of
the holes; these might have been initially planned for that (bow cannon
ports), given the difference in height of the bow piece when compared to the
hull sections (ie, a hole had to be open in the bow section to allow a
cannon at that level). After some further development, LEGO designers might
have abandoned the idea due to its difficult implementation, but the already
designed molds were retained and used.
> I've plugged them with inverse slopes on my larger ships (with contrasting
> 2x3s to form the anchor point for the ratlines, or with hull-coloured 2x2s
> and left as part of the hull).
>
> They seem too low to be left open on a large ship...
Compare with the cannon levels in those early models (bsb is one).
If you think "galleon", maybe not; they were known to have very low
gunports, in their spanish version, which often flooded...
For later types of ships, ie ship-of-the-line, it may be less accurate. So
it may be more a question of "what kind of ship".
> Any ideas on why they're there, what they should be used for, how to mount a
> gun port lid over them, or how to plug them neatly?
Nope. They are not that noticeable in a very detailed ship, though - never
mind the hole if you cannot cover it.
I have had the BSB since late 1989, and only noticed that the holes were
there *unused* some 4 years later... :-)
Pedro
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In lugnet.pirates, Richie Dulin writes:
> Ahoy,
>
> Both types of hull bow pieces have roughly 2x2 opeings in them.... what are
> they for?
>
> I originally thought they were either cannon ports or openings for anchors,
> but the official LEGO models I've seen use them for neither.
>
> It is possible, though awkward, to use one as a cannon port, but I haven't
> found a satisfactory way to mount a 2x2 flag (or anything else, for that
> matter) as a gunport lid.
>
> I've plugged them with inverse slopes on my larger ships (with contrasting
> 2x3s to form the anchor point for the ratlines, or with hull-coloured 2x2s
> and left as part of the hull).
>
> They seem too low to be left open on a large ship...
>
> Any ideas on why they're there, what they should be used for, how to mount a
> gun port lid over them, or how to plug them neatly?
>
> Cheers
>
> Richie Dulin
No idea, but I have used them for cannon ports and windows. You could
probably ask similar questions for practicly any large Lego piece. Maybe
their just their for decoration?
-JHK
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In lugnet.pirates, Richie Dulin wrote:
> Ahoy,
>
> Both types of hull bow pieces have roughly 2x2 opeings in them.... what are
> they for?
>
> I originally thought they were either cannon ports or openings for anchors,
> but the official LEGO models I've seen use them for neither.
>
> It is possible, though awkward, to use one as a cannon port, but I haven't
> found a satisfactory way to mount a 2x2 flag (or anything else, for that
> matter) as a gunport lid.
I saw this post, and I viewed it as a challenge,
see:
<http://news.lugnet.com/pirates/?n=4153>
and
see:
<http://news.lugnet.com/pirates/?n=4154>
I used both as gun ports (in the 16 wide bow) and mounted 2x2 flags as gunport
lids.
what do you think?
>
> I've plugged them with inverse slopes on my larger ships (with contrasting
> 2x3s to form the anchor point for the ratlines, or with hull-coloured 2x2s
> and left as part of the hull).
>
> They seem too low to be left open on a large ship...
>
> Any ideas on why they're there, what they should be used for, how to mount a
> gun port lid over them, or how to plug them neatly?
>
> Cheers
>
> Richie Dulin
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In lugnet.pirates, Kurt Baty wrote:
> In lugnet.pirates, Richie Dulin wrote:
> > Ahoy,
> >
> > Both types of hull bow pieces have roughly 2x2 opeings in them.... what are
> > they for?
> >
> > I originally thought they were either cannon ports or openings for anchors,
> > but the official LEGO models I've seen use them for neither.
> >
> > It is possible, though awkward, to use one as a cannon port, but I haven't
> > found a satisfactory way to mount a 2x2 flag (or anything else, for that
> > matter) as a gunport lid.
>
> I saw this post, and I viewed it as a challenge,
>
> see:
> <http://news.lugnet.com/pirates/?n=4153>
>
> and
>
> see:
> <http://news.lugnet.com/pirates/?n=4154>
>
> I used both as gun ports (in the 16 wide bow) and mounted 2x2 flags as gunport
> lids.
>
> what do you think?
A nice solution... am I right in thinking the 2x2 with handle (that holds the
gunport lid) is mounted studs outward?
The recolouring of the bow piece helps make the gunport look like it belongs,
too.
Cheers
Richie Dulin
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In lugnet.pirates, Richie Dulin wrote:
> In lugnet.pirates, Kurt Baty wrote:
> > In lugnet.pirates, Richie Dulin wrote:
> > > Ahoy,
> > >
> > > Both types of hull bow pieces have roughly 2x2 opeings in them.... what are
> > > they for?
> > >
> > > I originally thought they were either cannon ports or openings for anchors,
> > > but the official LEGO models I've seen use them for neither.
> > >
> > > It is possible, though awkward, to use one as a cannon port, but I haven't
> > > found a satisfactory way to mount a 2x2 flag (or anything else, for that
> > > matter) as a gunport lid.
> >
> > I saw this post, and I viewed it as a challenge,
> >
> > see:
> > <http://news.lugnet.com/pirates/?n=4153>
> >
> > and
> >
> > see:
> > <http://news.lugnet.com/pirates/?n=4154>
> >
> > I used both as gun ports (in the 16 wide bow) and mounted 2x2 flags as gunport
> > lids.
> >
> > what do you think?
>
> A nice solution... am I right in thinking the 2x2 with handle (that holds the
> gunport lid) is mounted studs outward?
A headlight brick on the bow piece, plate 1 x 3 AT THE HALF STUD on the
headlight brick's side stud, with a plate 1 x 1 and the
'Plate 1 x 2 with Handle' (2540), with a tile 1 x 4 on them.
I think it centers well over the gun port opening, it's close to the hull,
and it hangs down just right.
Get a good fiction contact with the plate 1 x 3's backside half stud and the
hollow side stud on the headlight brick. And have a upper plate level
cover/secure the top stud on the headlight brick.
I built it in colors, so that you could see:
<<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/kurt/lego-details/bow_gun_port_top.jpg>>
in:
<http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=115610>
>
> The recolouring of the bow piece helps make the gunport look like it belongs,
> too.
I think so too.
enjoy
kurt
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Richie Dulin
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In lugnet.pirates, Kurt Baty wrote:
> In lugnet.pirates, Richie Dulin wrote:
> > A nice solution... am I right in thinking the 2x2 with handle (that holds the
> > gunport lid) is mounted studs outward?
>
>
> A headlight brick on the bow piece, plate 1 x 3 AT THE HALF STUD on the
> headlight brick's side stud, with a plate 1 x 1 and the
> 'Plate 1 x 2 with Handle' (2540), with a tile 1 x 4 on them.
>
> I think it centers well over the gun port opening, it's close to the hull,
> and it hangs down just right.
>
> Get a good fiction contact with the plate 1 x 3's backside half stud and the
> hollow side stud on the headlight brick. And have a upper plate level
> cover/secure the top stud on the headlight brick.
>
>
> I built it in colors, so that you could see:
>
> <<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/kurt/lego-details/bow_gun_port_top.jpg>>
>
> in:
>
> <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=115610>
That's a very elegant solution! Thanks particularly for the build in colours.
Cheers
Richie Dulin
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