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> In lugnet.western, Tom Reed writes:
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> > http://community.webtv.net/TDReed/BlackRose
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> I have a question, though. How'd you do the black rose logo on the sails?
> Silkscreen or something? What fabric did you use for the sails? While I'm
> not doing Pirates ATM (I'm getting things in place for some castle stuff) I
> want to use my pirate ships but with different "non-pirate" sails. I just
> haven't looked around much, yet, to figure out what works best.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions you (or anyone) can make.
>
> Joel J
Hi Joel,
The black rose on the sails is done with iron on fabric. It's the same stuff
you would buy to patch some clothing. It comes in different weights and I
use the lighter weight.
I made a design on paper, traced it to the fabric, cut it out, and then
ironed it on. It's tricky to lay it out just right before you iron it.
The fabric I use is just regular cotton broadcloth that you can find in any
fabric store. You can use just about any type of fabric, but the trick is
making it stiff! For that I use "Aleene's Fabric Stiffener and Draping
Liquid"! You can find it in most fabric stores too! I mix it half and half
with water and soak the fabric in it. Hang it up to dry and after it's dry,
I iron it to remove any wrinkles. I do this before I apply any design! The
liquid is great for keeping the fabric from unraveling too!
Once the fabric is treated, then you can paint it, sew on it, or glue stuff
to it. If you need to make it stiffer, you can resoak it in a stronger
solution.
I usually do the stiffening and the applying of the design before I cut out
the final sail shape! That way you can make sure the design is centered
properly on your sail! It would be twice as hard to apply the design if you
had to worry with getting it lined up too! In fact, you want to cut out the
sails after you have stiffened and ironed the fabric. For the holes, you
can find a special paper hole puncher with the right size hole at a hobby
store. I think the size is 3/16 inches!
I hope that helps you to make some sails! I'll look forward to seeing what
you create.
Tom
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Sheree Rosenkrantz is planning on making sails for sale. I know she will
be at Brickfest and some of her sails will be featured in the Pirate
Game.
Frank
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In lugnet.pirates, Frank Filz writes:
> Sheree Rosenkrantz is planning on making sails for sale. I know she will
> be at Brickfest and some of her sails will be featured in the Pirate
> Game.
>
> Frank
Good to know, but sadly I won't be able to make it. I was hoping to, but a
family emergency last week sucked up my vacation time.
Does she have a web page or some such that shows her work? (or should I be
more proactive and look before I ask? :)
Joel J
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In lugnet.pirates, Tom Reed writes:
> > In lugnet.western, Tom Reed writes:
> >
> > > http://community.webtv.net/TDReed/BlackRose
> >
> > I have a question, though. How'd you do the black rose logo on the sails?
> > Silkscreen or something? What fabric did you use for the sails? While I'm
> > not doing Pirates ATM (I'm getting things in place for some castle stuff) I
> > want to use my pirate ships but with different "non-pirate" sails. I just
> > haven't looked around much, yet, to figure out what works best.
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions you (or anyone) can make.
> >
> > Joel J
> Hi Joel,
> The black rose on the sails is done with iron on fabric. It's the same stuff
> you would buy to patch some clothing. It comes in different weights and I
> use the lighter weight.
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> I hope that helps you to make some sails! I'll look forward to seeing what
> you create.
> Tom
Tom -
That's great info. Thanks for explaining it. It'll be some time before I get
around to it (I think) but I'll be sure to post then. :)
Joel J
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In lugnet.pirates, Joel Jacobsen writes:
> In lugnet.pirates, Tom Reed writes:
> > > In lugnet.western, Tom Reed writes:
> > >
> > > > http://community.webtv.net/TDReed/BlackRose
> > >
> > > I have a question, though. How'd you do the black rose logo on the sails?
> > > Silkscreen or something? What fabric did you use for the sails? While I'm
> > > not doing Pirates ATM (I'm getting things in place for some castle stuff) I
> > > want to use my pirate ships but with different "non-pirate" sails. I just
> > > haven't looked around much, yet, to figure out what works best.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any suggestions you (or anyone) can make.
> > >
> > > Joel J
> > Hi Joel,
> > The black rose on the sails is done with iron on fabric. It's the same stuff
> > you would buy to patch some clothing. It comes in different weights and I
> > use the lighter weight.
>
> <snipped>
>
> > I hope that helps you to make some sails! I'll look forward to seeing what
> > you create.
> > Tom
>
> Tom -
>
> That's great info. Thanks for explaining it. It'll be some time before I get
> around to it (I think) but I'll be sure to post then. :)
>
> Joel J
Hi Guys,
There's another method of sailmaking that's a little less messy than the
liquid stiffener. My wife (the costumer) introduced me to "Heat and Bond"
which is a lot like patching material. It should be available at a craft or
fabric store. It's a synthetic material that you place on the back of
fabric and iron so it 'melts' onto the back of the fabric. It stiffens and
keeps the edges from unraveling. You want to use a fairly thick, cottony
material, and we actually sandwiched the Heat and Bond between two layers so
it doesn't show and you end up with nice stiff sails. For the holes, I just
cut an X where the hole should be and the pegs poked through nicely.
(now here's the really mean part)
I would show you the end result, but they went on a secret project that Mark
Sandlin and I built about a month or two ago. We haven't posted any
pictures because we want to wait until we get the SEALUG web site up. The
site is coming along nicely so hopefully it won't be too long now. Muhahaha!
Sean
PS: My wife also suggested that I add that the liquid stiffeners can become
really brittle after a while, which is why she prefers the Heat N Bond.
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I kinda thought that starching 'em would work... Anyone tried that?
Steve
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Steve Burge wrote in message ...
> I kinda thought that starching 'em would work... Anyone tried that?
Diluted yellow carpenters glue works well. Dilute about 6:1 water:glue,
slosh fabric in it, allow to dry, then iron smooth. Can be washed several
times before you need to re-stiffen it, and can be ironed in between times
to get folds and wrinkles out if necessary.
Kevin
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In lugnet.pirates, Sean Forbes writes:
> PS: My wife also suggested that I add that the liquid stiffeners can become
> really brittle after a while, which is why she prefers the Heat N Bond.
Hi Sean,
I wanted to say that the liquid stiffener I use has never shown any problems
with becoming brittle! I have some sails that are over a year old and they
aren't brittle. A nice feature of the liquid is that you can vary the
concentration and make stiffer sails if you need them. I also like working
with lighter fabric because they hold their shape better over time. I find
the thicker fabric tends to want to sag!
Just something for sailmakers to think about..
Tom
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