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On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:04:57 GMT
"Amy Hughes" <lugnews@public.atreides.org> wrote:
> In lugnet.org.us.michlug, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > Sure, I'd like to see sponsorship links if people pony • up
> > money for them but that's not a big deal either.
<snipped Excellent Advertising "rant" >
I don't think it was a rant, rather a good discussion on
advertising on websites.
I don't want ads on the site either. I think the only thing
would be on members pages, or maybe a special links section
(Michlug members items or something), buried in the site
somewhere. No advertising banners or anything, definately
tacky.
Scott S.
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In lugnet.org.us.michlug, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> Sure, I'd like to see sponsorship links if people pony up
> money for them but that's not a big deal either.
The following rant is directed at our brain-dead society, and the advertisers
who think our time and attention are theirs to sell, and not at Larry...
The problem with web advertising is that it doesn't pay well enough to be worth
the bother. Click-through rates for banner advertisements are abysmally low, so
advertisers don't pay diddly. That's why so many dot-coms without a real
business plan, who counted on advertising revenue rather than sales, are going
under. Even the big guys, like Yahoo, are struggling.
How much money is it worth to MichLUG to have tacky banners on our pages that
make the pages take longer to load? Go ahead and put a value on it. Any value
you want. Add to that the cost of getting hosting elsewhere, 'cause I won't
host a site with advertising. Then do the research and see if you can get that
much. If you can get enough advertising money, then go for it.
Why do I hate advertising so much? Why won't I host a site with advertising?
Because there's already too much of it. There's so much of it that it's
becoming a quality-of-life issue. Our society lacks class because we tolerate
so much mindless, tacky *crap*.
I won't insult our visitors by selling their attention for $4 per month, or
whatever paltry sum it amounts to. I'd rather take that much out of my pocket
and keep our site an ad-free zone.
Amy
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In lugnet.org.us.michlug, Amy Hughes writes:
> In lugnet.org.us.michlug, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > Sure, I'd like to see sponsorship links if people pony up
> > money for them but that's not a big deal either.
Whoa, whoa...
<snip banner ad critique (well placed, BTW)>
I wasn't talking about big commercial banner ads. I meant if, say, Scott
decided to pay some significant part of the site costs that there ought to
be a link back to his commercial site on the front page.
THAT'S what I meant (I used Scott as an example although he's exiting the
biz... but I could just have easily used myself and my commercial site,
which is targeted at LEGO hobbyists just as Scott's was).
Hope that clarifies... but again, it's not a big deal.
++Lar
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In lugnet.org.us.michlug, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> THAT'S what I meant (I used Scott as an example although he's exiting the
> biz...
<major snip>
Scott's exiting the business? TSSC is closing? Or just until or you get
situated in South Bend?
-Jason
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In lugnet.org.us.michlug, Amy Hughes wrote:
<snip awesome anti-advert rant>
You go Amy!
Especially this part:
> Why do I hate advertising so much? Why won't I host a site with advertising?
> Because there's already too much of it. There's so much of it that it's
> becoming a quality-of-life issue. Our society lacks class because we tolerate
> so much mindless, tacky *crap*.
When I started getting advertising on the envelopes of my monthly bills, I
knew the end times were drawing near.
Steve
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