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Re: IRON MECHA - The Qwelder Mech - FOR SALE
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Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:55:02 GMT
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, David Koudys wrote:

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   The mecha group doesn’t explicitly welcome auction posts (that I’ve seen).

I’m guessing you meant “The mecha group explicitly doesn’t welcome auction posts...”

That foundcounded lysdexia...

JOHN

   
         
   
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Re: IRON MECHA - The Qwelder Mech - FOR SALE
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Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:31:28 GMT
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, David Koudys wrote:

<snip>

   The mecha group doesn’t explicitly welcome auction posts (that I’ve seen).

I’m guessing you meant “The mecha group explicitly doesn’t welcome auction posts...”

Auction posts are unwelcome in ALL groups unless the group explicitly welcomes them, and .build.mecha doesn’t explicitly welcome them, so I see no problem with Dave’s sentence. And as .build.mecha does not “explicitly not welcome” them, I don’t see why you think that’s what Dave meant.

   That foundcounded lysdexia...

Do you mean “foncounded”?

ROSCO

   
         
   
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Re: IRON MECHA - The Qwelder Mech - FOR SALE
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lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade
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Wed, 29 Mar 2006 00:26:43 GMT
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Ross Crawford wrote:
   In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, David Koudys wrote:

<snip>

   The mecha group doesn’t explicitly welcome auction posts (that I’ve seen).

I’m guessing you meant “The mecha group explicitly doesn’t welcome auction posts...”

Auction posts are unwelcome in ALL groups unless the group explicitly welcomes them, and .build.mecha doesn’t explicitly welcome them, so I see no problem with Dave’s sentence. And as .build.mecha does not “explicitly not welcome” them, I don’t see why you think that’s what Dave meant.

Well, here’s where I’m confused. It’s really irrelevant whether or not auction posts are welcomed by participants, since they are explicitly unwelcome, as spelled out in the TOS.

  
   That foundcounded lysdexia...

Do you mean “foncounded”?

Topato, tapato.

JOHN

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: IRON MECHA - The Qwelder Mech - FOR SALE
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lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade
Date: 
Wed, 29 Mar 2006 02:59:41 GMT
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Ross Crawford wrote:
   In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, David Koudys wrote:

<snip>

   The mecha group doesn’t explicitly welcome auction posts (that I’ve seen).

I’m guessing you meant “The mecha group explicitly doesn’t welcome auction posts...”

Auction posts are unwelcome in ALL groups unless the group explicitly welcomes them, and .build.mecha doesn’t explicitly welcome them, so I see no problem with Dave’s sentence. And as .build.mecha does not “explicitly not welcome” them, I don’t see why you think that’s what Dave meant.

Well, here’s where I’m confused. It’s really irrelevant whether or not auction posts are welcomed by participants, since they are explicitly unwelcome, as spelled out in the TOS.

They are not explicitly unwelcome in any group charters (that I’m aware of). The unwelcomeness in any particular group is implicit (not explicit) from the overall site TOS, unless explicitly welcomed in the group charter (which is not the case in .build.mecha).

Clear?

ROSCO

   
         
   
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Re: IRON MECHA - The Qwelder Mech - FOR SALE
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lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade
Date: 
Wed, 29 Mar 2006 05:09:50 GMT
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Ross Crawford wrote:
   In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Ross Crawford wrote:
   In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, David Koudys wrote:

<snip>

   The mecha group doesn’t explicitly welcome auction posts (that I’ve seen).

I’m guessing you meant “The mecha group explicitly doesn’t welcome auction posts...”

Auction posts are unwelcome in ALL groups unless the group explicitly welcomes them, and .build.mecha doesn’t explicitly welcome them, so I see no problem with Dave’s sentence. And as .build.mecha does not “explicitly not welcome” them, I don’t see why you think that’s what Dave meant.

Well, here’s where I’m confused. It’s really irrelevant whether or not auction posts are welcomed by participants, since they are explicitly unwelcome, as spelled out in the TOS.

They are not explicitly unwelcome in any group charters (that I’m aware of). The unwelcomeness in any particular group is implicit (not explicit) from the overall site TOS, unless explicitly welcomed in the group charter (which is not the case in .build.mecha).

Clear?

I finally had to go back and read the particular TOS. I had assumed that auction spam was flat-out forbidden; it appears that a group can in theory allow such posts (although I have no idea how this would be decided upon).

Thanks,

JOHN

   
         
   
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Re: IRON MECHA - The Qwelder Mech - FOR SALE
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Date: 
Wed, 29 Mar 2006 05:40:04 GMT
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Ross Crawford wrote:
   They are not explicitly unwelcome in any group charters (that I’m aware of). The unwelcomeness in any particular group is implicit (not explicit) from the overall site TOS, unless explicitly welcomed in the group charter (which is not the case in .build.mecha).

I finally had to go back and read the particular TOS. I had assumed that auction spam was flat-out forbidden; it appears that a group can in theory allow such posts (although I have no idea how this would be decided upon).

Check out .org.au

In mentioning this though, I realise the .loc.au charter doesn’t explicitly allow such postings, so there are probably many TOS violations in that group, not to mention the sidebar. Hmmmm. Maybe time to get the charter changed. If possible.

ROSCO

   
         
   
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Re: IRON MECHA - The Qwelder Mech - FOR SALE
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Date: 
Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:26:26 GMT
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In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Ross Crawford wrote:
   In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Ross Crawford wrote:
   They are not explicitly unwelcome in any group charters (that I’m aware of). The unwelcomeness in any particular group is implicit (not explicit) from the overall site TOS, unless explicitly welcomed in the group charter (which is not the case in .build.mecha).

I finally had to go back and read the particular TOS. I had assumed that auction spam was flat-out forbidden; it appears that a group can in theory allow such posts (although I have no idea how this would be decided upon).

Check out .org.au

In mentioning this though, I realise the .loc.au charter doesn’t explicitly allow such postings, so there are probably many TOS violations in that group, not to mention the sidebar. Hmmmm. Maybe time to get the charter changed. If possible.

ROSCO

IIRC the .org hierarchy was partially set up as a place where people could offer things for sale to their local area. I can remember that years ago a certain Australian got banned from posting for advertising sales in .loc.au but was then allowed back when they posted them to .org.au

Tim

 

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