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Re: The Wobbegong sails forth
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lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.pirates
Date: 
Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:25:25 GMT
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Congrats.  I particularly liked the skeleton hangng from the halyard(?).

Yes, it wasn't just the Islanders that suffered at the hands of the pirates
on the Wobbegong. The Flying Ninja Fortress was also raided and lost their
red-capped skeleton and all those ninja-blue-with-gold hatch covers. Fort
Legoredo also suffered considerably; the entire rear side (the jail side)
was demolished for windows, while the US cavalary lost guns, swords, and
their cannon.

Reflecting their superior firepower, the USS Kittyhawk and a number of Star
Wars spaceships managed to hold back the maurading pirates and their vessels
remain unplundered. (Princess Leia had previously been captured and was
cryosealed in a plastic bag; I'm sure she didn't feel any pain when her legs
were removed to turn her into a figurehead).

This is a cackle - what else is there to a pirate ship, apart from the odd
vertical wall and bit of horizontal deck :-)

Well, in the case of the Black Sea Barracuda, the walls and deck actually
aren't vertical! And there's a host of other items that just didn't come
readily to hand in my collection: windows, doors, the fence pieces to hold
the cannons in places, the tall slopes (normal and inverse), the decorative
pieces over the window areas, etc. However, most of them I could finesse,
except for the doors. As the consequence, the Wobbegong has doorways instead
of doors.

See everyone - you don't have to have a ton of pirate gear to get into
pirates. Here the main thing was apparently the bow and stern, and most
pirateheads who build big ships have an odd bow and stern to spare (just • no
centre sections ;-)

Actually, what I had meant was that the possession of a bow and stern
inspired me to try to build a large pirate ship. If I hadn't had them, I
probably would have built something else. I actually think you could build a
bow & stern using conventional bricks, albeit with some pixelation.
Admittedly it would be easier with a real bow/stern in your hand at the time
for detailed examination. You could build masts entirely out of 2x2 rounds,
but you would need a lot more 2x2 rounds than I possess to build all the
masts that way. You could use 2x2 squares for the lower parts of the mast,
but the problem would be that they would probably become unstable at mast
heights, and unlike the 2x2 round, there is no way to reinforce 2x2 squares
with technic axles. Given that the weight of the spars is all on one side of
the mast, mast stability is a consideration. However, you may be able to use
cotton rigging to add stability. However, I had a mast and a half so I
didn't have to go down that road.

Historical trivia, did you know that ...

one of the reasons that the English navy wopped the Spanish Armada and
various others related largely to the amount of sail the English ships could
carry. One of the limiting factors here is the height of the mast. For
strength, masts have to be a single piece (not spliced together). So, naval
superiority was directly related to the availability of very tall very
straight very strong trees. The English had good political relations with
Norway at this time, and Norway was a major source of tall straight strong
trees. It was this same source of timber that had enabled the Vikings to
build their ships earlier.

Kerry

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: The Wobbegong sails forth
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.pirates
Date: 
Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:47:50 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.au, Kerry Raymond writes:

Actually, what I had meant was that the possession of a bow and stern
inspired me to try to build a large pirate ship. If I hadn't had them, I
probably would have built something else. I actually think you could build a
bow & stern using conventional bricks, albeit with some pixelation.

Indeed. Just look at the "Indescribable" and friends!!

ROSCO

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: The Wobbegong sails forth
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.pirates
Date: 
Thu, 15 Mar 2001 03:31:09 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.au, Kerry Raymond writes:
You could build masts entirely out of 2x2 rounds,
but you would need a lot more 2x2 rounds than I possess to build all the
masts that way. You could use 2x2 squares for the lower parts of the mast,
but the problem would be that they would probably become unstable at mast
heights, and unlike the 2x2 round, there is no way to reinforce 2x2 squares
with technic axles. Given that the weight of the spars is all on one side of
the mast, mast stability is a consideration.

I've done masts with technic beams mounted on end. Side by side for thicker
sections, single beam for thinner ones and bowsprits. My current pirate
ship, the Revenge (captained by one Dread Pirate Roberts), is twin masted
(from two flybos) and has a technic bowsprit.

In the mid-late seventies, I build several pirate ships using the old blue
train tracks for masts.

There's also the USS Constution method to consider (2x plates iirc).

However, you may be able to use cotton rigging to add stability.
Just like real rigging!


Cheers

Richie Dulin

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: The Wobbegong sails forth
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.pirates
Date: 
Thu, 15 Mar 2001 03:44:38 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.au, Richie Dulin writes:
My current pirate ship, the Revenge (captained by one Dread Pirate Roberts)
Is that THE Dread Pirate Roberts?

Do you have Miracle Max on board as well?

Martin

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: The Wobbegong sails forth
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lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.pirates
Date: 
Thu, 15 Mar 2001 03:55:08 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.au, Martin Scragg writes:
Is that THE Dread Pirate Roberts?

Well, as much THE as any Dread Pirate Roberts is ;-)

Black legs, black torso, black hands, "Errol Flynn" head, black head skarf
(obviously, this is after he took of the mask).


Do you have Miracle Max on board as well?

Inconceivable!

Cheers

Richie

   
         
   
Subject: 
Dread Pirate Roberts (was "The Wobbegong sails forth")
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.pirates, lugnet.build.minifigs
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lugnet.build.minifigs
Date: 
Thu, 15 Mar 2001 05:16:40 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.au, Martin Scragg writes:

In lugnet.loc.au, Richie Dulin writes:

My current pirate ship, the Revenge
(captained by one Dread Pirate Roberts)

Is that THE Dread Pirate Roberts?

I just thought of how to build a "Dread Pirate Roberts"
Lego minifig in real life (if you're willing to do
a minor amount of "artistic re-touching").
First, take a classic "sunglasses" minifig head,
paint small white eyeholes (one on each of the "lenses")
as well as a pointed moustache (in brown).
Then, take an unpainted black torso, and paint
a thin white outline of the shirt's collar,
and then paint the yellow neckline.
Then, after the paint is all dry, assemble the appropriate
other parts (black legs and black head-scarf).

For inspiration, may I provide the following Lego-CAD imagery:
"http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/fwcain/npcs/dread_pirate_roberts.gif"
"http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/fwcain/npcs/dread_pirate_roberts.jpg"

(The next time I do a trade with craigo-lego,
I may have to ask him to do this for me... ;-)

Hope this helps.  Please LMKWYT.
Thanks,
Franklin

 

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