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Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts
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Date: 
Wed, 6 Dec 2000 22:59:08 GMT
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In lugnet.lego.direct, James Powell writes:
In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard Marchetti writes:
In lugnet.lego.direct, Mark Sandlin writes:
It's all very interesting and exciting, but I'm not very interested in
losing rights to my designs. We shall see.

Rights? I don't disagree with your fundamental assertions here, Mark -- but
what exactly do you think happens when you post several detailed images of
your stuff to the internet?  Sure, maybe some people write to you and want
either the original or a boxed with instructions copy -- but most of us look
the thing over for useful ideas -- or maybe even just knock it off outright!


If you did this to one of my GoB sets, and I find out about it, I _will_ take
you to small claims court.  _I_ own the design, period.  If you come up with
something similar, fine.  But, if you take from my design, and it is not
enough different to prove that you came up with a signifigant difference, I
will use the recorses that are available to me.

Well, I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think you've got much of an argument here.

As long as I credit the creator, and am not republishing or selling their
work, then you're out of luck trying to sue me.  If I build a model based on
pictures of your model (which, unless I buy the instructions, or otherwise
obtain them, is all I have to go on), then that is a derivative work, by
definition.  So long as a credit my inspirition, well, tough noogies,
there's not much you can do about it.

If I see a painting in a gallery, take a picture of it, and paint my own at
home, that doesn't violate copyright.

If I see a (model on the internet), (download) a picture of it, and make my
own at home, that doesn't violate copyright.

you display something in public, you take that risk.

Fine.  I am not going to cry over you coming up with your own designs.  I wish
you _the absolute best_ in designing for yourself.  But, I am sure you have
taken some ideas from elsewhere, from Lego designs, from the web, from meeting
people and seeing what they have done...but, if you want what I have thought
up, you have to _pay_ for it in one way or another, at least if I feel
reasonable in charging for it.

This argument holds water, right up until you display something publicly.
As soon as you display a picture, gratis and free of obligation, then (IIRC)
under copyright law, I can create as many derivative works as I like, so
long as I credit my inspiration.  I can say "This is a copy I made of a
Fletcher Jennings model I saw" 'till the cows come home, and you can't do
anything about it.  You can legitimately complain, and sue my pants off, the
instant I claim it *is* a Fletcher Jennings model, though.

James



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  Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts
 
(...) That's like saying, as long as I credit the band who wrote the song, and don't sell the CD, I am not breaking copywrite when I copy a CD. It ain't so, and I think it is fairly plain to see that that is not so. As for the comment above, (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts
 
(...) If you did this to one of my GoB sets, and I find out about it, I _will_ take you to small claims court. _I_ own the design, period. If you come up with something similar, fine. But, if you take from my design, and it is not enough different (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)

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