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Re: Nicely now. What do you think of the new colors?
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lugnet.lego, lugnet.general
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Mon, 19 Jan 2004 02:10:36 GMT
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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote:
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As both my duty as the Community Development Manager, and as an AFOL, I’m
interested in helping to make sure that the LEGO Company fully understands
the issues you have as well. I’m looking for your help to deliver the
message. To be totally clear, this is me asking in order to have answers
ready if and when my colleagues ask.
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Jake
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Jake McKee
Community Development Manager
LEGO Community Development
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Overall, I like the new colors INDEPENDENTLY, but I don’t think they are better
than the old colors, and I do NOT like the fact that the old colors aren’t going
to be produced any more. Per color, my thoughts are:
new light gray: I can see the difference , but to me, it’s not enough to
severely clash with the old version. to me it is a cleaner, fresher color, but
gray is gray, so it’s not really much ‘better’ overall.
new dark gray: WOW; severe clashing all over! DEFINITELY a noticeable
difference. I personally like blueish-gray, but I think that’s really where the
new color fails-it should have been a new color: ‘bluish-gray’, & NOT replace
the VERY useful warm, earthy dark gray.
New brown: Hmmm...a little more reddish, kinda wierd, but relatively closer to
old brown than old dark gray is to new ‘blue gray’ (see above.) I like the old
rich chocolatey brown, so, the new reddish-brown should be just that; a new
color: ‘reddish brown’ & NOT replace the deep old brown. Overall, I don’t see
why the change was made; it seems really useless: different enough to
TECHNICALLY be a distinct, separate NEW color (along with maintaining the old
brown), but not different enough from good old brown to be ‘better’. It almost
looks like a color-mix accident.
I don’t know what the 4th color is, so I don’t know what to tell you.
I really hope the color change does not foretell brick plastic or stud changes.
This is a very important point, which I think gets at the heart of the matter.
I think those of us who do not like the color change feel betrayed by LEGO. The
following statement is my attempt to sum up these sour feelings: “LEGO didn’t
seem to care about compatibility of the look/color of the brick, so why trust
them to maintain the quality of the plastic, or strength, or shape of the core
brick design?” I’d like to drive that request home:
PLEASE DON’T CHANGE THE BRICK PLASTIC (UNLESS IT’S STRONGER, MORE DURABLE, MORE
COLORFAST ETC & FEELS THE SAME WITH SAME ‘WEIGHT’)
PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE THE STUD/TUBE DESIGN TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR YOUNGER KIDS
TO USE; THEY HAVE DUPLO & JUNIOR LINES. I will add, that within my lifetime,
I’ve seen the holes in the studs (like in the top of a 1x1 round brick):
get ‘squarer’ to insrease the strength. That was a good change, which is
acceptable, but only if it does not affect the continuity of form or function of
the piece.
While you’ve graciously given your attention, I’d like to add that the ‘new’
click-hinges are great in some applications, like basic 1x? hinge-brick/plate to
1x? hinge-brick/plate when they’re solidly connected within the overall
construction OR, used as a simple arm or langing ‘foot’ etc. The click-hinges
are TERRIBLE in the panel uses, like the back of the new X-Wing:, or panels on
the new cargo train(or even cockpit windows sometimes); they have large ugly
gaps at the hinge area, and the hinge tends to be stronger than the stud
connection, so the hinge-piece comes off when you try to use it:
The solution to the hinged panel problem is NOT to weaken the hinge; rather, on
panel pieces, stop using the click-hinge & go back to using the older ‘fingered’
hinges:
keep the other old hinges too:
since they also are better for some applications like non-standard angles,
changing stud direction (SNOT), etc.
thanks for your time & listening
Jeff
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| It's only a couple of weeks in the new year, and it looks like it's going to be an interesting 2004! I have a request, but before I go any further, let me say that personally, I understand the concerns surrounding the color changes. I know many of (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX) !!
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