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Re: Nicely now. What do you think of the new colors?
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lugnet.lego, lugnet.general
Date: 
Sun, 18 Jan 2004 03:07:20 GMT
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"Jake McKee" <jacob.mckee@america.lego.com> wrote in message
news:HrInyA.22B1@lugnet.com...
I would ask that you reply to this thread with your thoughts and feelings • about
the color issue, both for and against. One post per person, I would think • would
make sense. I would ask that the debate be restricted to other threads, • and that
all posts be rational, calm, and non-hateful. This will ensure that I can • more
easily pass along the information, and that the message isn't bogged down • in
debate.

I didn't care for the way the color change was handled, nor for the official
explanation afterward which struck me as hollow. The new colors I actually
don't mind, but because the explanation seemed nonsensical, the change
seemed to have no real purpose. If, as I suspect and others have also
suggested, the color change is a cost-cutting production measure, then the
change would make more sense from a logical standpoint, even if it wouldn't
make the fact that three of the most useful and widely used colors are being
discontinued go away.

It seems that many of the Lugnetters who are upset by the color change are
MOC builders, whereas many of the newer users, particularly the younger
hobbyists coming in to the LEGO due to the Star Wars and Harry Potter
licenses (as well as Bionicle), are building the primary model, and may not
break down the sets for their own MOCs--they are "collectors" of the hobby.
If that is true, the color change will not affect whether or not that type
of buyer will purchase a (and perhaps only) 2004 set, as the pieces will
remain as the original set. It seems it is this kind of builder, the
collectors, that TLC was considering in the color change. MOC builders, on
the other hand, will be dissuaded from making bulk purchases or multiple
copies of that set as the colors will no longer be compatible with their
existing accumulations of bricks.

Personally, I see myself as a bit of both kinds of hobbyist. After the past
17 years of both acquiring and trading away LEGO pieces, I currently have
about 200,000 pieces, much of which is light gray from Castle. Roughly half
of my bricks are parts of sets (if "completeness" still means anything, I am
almost "castle complete" and "Star Wars system complete", as you can see
from my inventory). The other 100,000 bricks are loose from sets I parted
out primarily from clearance buys, Bricklink purchases, and bulk direct and
go into my town and castle MOCs. I've decided to deal with the color change
by continuing to collect sets in the themes I like (Star Wars, castle, etc.)
but to not buy 2004 sets to add to my MOC brick stock but to go to Bricklink
or Direct exclusively for those types of needs. 100,000 pieces is plenty,
anyway.

That said, again being logical about it, considering the kinds of sets I
used to get to part out for my MOCs--sets on clearance, 90% off retail many
times, I doubt these are the kinds of purchases that made a dent in the
company's
bottom line--I admit, I almost never buy multiple copies of a set at retail
for its parts. Because of that, I can logically see that my 1 cent as a MOC
builder isn't worth as much to the company as my 1 cent as a collector.

binky



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  Nicely now. What do you think of the new colors?
 
It's only a couple of weeks in the new year, and it looks like it's going to be an interesting 2004! I have a request, but before I go any further, let me say that personally, I understand the concerns surrounding the color changes. I know many of (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jan-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX) !! 

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