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Re: Keynote presentation
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Mon, 16 Aug 2004 23:55:15 GMT
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"Allan Bedford" <ExpertBuilder-DELETE-TO-REPLY@apotome.com> wrote in message
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You could always give the comics to a neighbourhood kid.

(Are there many adults who "get" Bionicle?  I sure don't...)

I don't 'get' it, but then it's not aimed at me.  I see kids who do get it • and
do love it and if it's helped sales over the last couple years, then I'm • all for
it.  Keeping the company financially healthy just means more sets from • other
themes can continue to be released.

However, an AFOL-oriented LEGO magazine is a fantastic idea.  Scale • train
modelers have their glossy periodicals, why shouldn't we?


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I don't believe (from either Jake's keynote or from the survey card I
completed several months ago) that this program is targeted at adults at
all.  In particular, almost all of the questions on the survey card were
geared towards me as a parent in reference to my children.

Mike


--
Mike Walsh - mike_walsh at mindspring.com
http://www.ncltc.cc - North Carolina LEGO Train Club
http://www.carolinatrainbuilders.com - Carolina Train Builders
http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=mpw - CTB/Brick Depot


Subject: 
Re: Keynote presentation
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lugnet.lego
Date: 
Tue, 17 Aug 2004 00:43:27 GMT
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In lugnet.lego, Mike Walsh wrote:

"Allan Bedford" <ExpertBuilder-DELETE-TO-REPLY@apotome.com> wrote in message
news:I2K6KB.11x9@lugnet.com...

[ ... snipped ... ]


You could always give the comics to a neighbourhood kid.

(Are there many adults who "get" Bionicle?  I sure don't...)

I don't 'get' it, but then it's not aimed at me.  I see kids who do get it and
do love it and if it's helped sales over the last couple years, then I'm all for
it.  Keeping the company financially healthy just means more sets from other
themes can continue to be released.

However, an AFOL-oriented LEGO magazine is a fantastic idea.  Scale train
modelers have their glossy periodicals, why shouldn't we?


[ ... snipped ... ]

I don't believe (from either Jake's keynote or from the survey card I
completed several months ago) that this program is targeted at adults at
all.  In particular, almost all of the questions on the survey card were
geared towards me as a parent in reference to my children.

That's right, Mike. Sorry for any confusion left by the keynote > posting
translation.

LEGO Brick Masters is targeted to and for kids.

The LEGO Club is a free, kid-oriented program. The LEGO Brick Masters is also
kid-oriented, but will be a pay-for-more type program.

Just like the current LEGO Club, LEGO Brick Masters is meant for kids, but may
be enjoyed by some AFOLs.

Jake
---
Jake McKee
Community Liaison
LEGO Community Development


Subject: 
Re: Keynote presentation
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lugnet.lego
Date: 
Tue, 17 Aug 2004 03:41:03 GMT
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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote:

That's right, Mike. Sorry for any confusion left by the keynote > posting
translation.

LEGO Brick Masters is targeted to and for kids.

Thanks for the clarification, Jake.  I'm sad to hear it, though.

I'm one of those "sleepers" y'all were apparentlny speaking about at BrickFest
(well, perhaps I'm starting to wake up in the last couple of weeks).  I'm
rediscovering LEGO and loving it.

But, I do get frustrated that the company seems (from my point of view) to be
ignoring AFOLs like me.  I too took the survey on the web site, and couldn't
even answer all the questions properly, because answers applying to me as an
AFOL weren't even among the options given.  So I got excited when it seemed that
LEGO was going to finally provide some support specifically for its most
dedicated, loyal, and deep-pocketed fans.  But alas, it's not so.  I keep
getting the impression that, ironically enough, LEGO doesn't see LEGO as a
serious adult hobby (unlike, say, the scale model train industry, or quilting
for that matter).

I have no problem with marketing toward kids -- obviously that's a big market
too.  But I really wish we AFOLs could feel some love too.


Subject: 
Re: Keynote presentation
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lugnet.lego
Date: 
Tue, 17 Aug 2004 04:07:23 GMT
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Hi Joe,

Stick around and you'll see that Lego does many things for AFOLs. Releasing sets
we want (Legends, trains), getting parts packs back in the sales mix, making
special events like outlet shopping at BrickFest. But when Lego produces
something it must have broad appeal and that means kids.

So I won't be taken aback at all if the Brick Master magazine has kid-oriented
instructions and comics in it.

The time for an AFOL specific magazine will come...

-Erik


Subject: 
Re: Keynote presentation
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lugnet.lego
Date: 
Tue, 17 Aug 2004 04:40:45 GMT
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In lugnet.lego, Erik Olson wrote:

The time for an AFOL specific magazine will come...

When it's time for one to happen, and there's a dedicated and competent set of
folks to do it, it will. Meanwhile, if one wants to hasten the day, one should
be working to strengthen the community including one's local orgs so that there
are more newsworthy things to report on!


Subject: 
Re: Keynote presentation
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lugnet.lego, lugnet.publish
Date: 
Wed, 18 Aug 2004 00:40:44 GMT
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In lugnet.lego, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
In lugnet.lego, Erik Olson wrote:

The time for an AFOL specific magazine will come...

When it's time for one to happen, and there's a dedicated and competent set of
folks to do it, it will.

Larry, based on the setback this community already encountered with a magazine,
how far away do you think such a thing is, realistically?  How much time will it
take to rebuild some of the trust that was lost?  And who will it take to lead
such a venture in the future? I know that I would be hesitant to send any money
to anyone again.  But at the same time I think the time for such a project could
be today, tomorrow, next week.  I'm not sure it needs to wait any longer.

I wonder... what if, the magazine were more of a 'newsletter' and rather than
focus on subscriptions and glossy presentation the person(s) creating it focused
on content and participation?  I just wonder, I don't have any answers.

Best regards,
Allan B.


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