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Subject: 
multi-set 'town' images on 1978-79 town instructions
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lugnet.inst, lugnet.town, lugnet.general
Date: 
Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:59:39 GMT
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G'day,

I was looking through my small collection of instructions the other day, and
I noticed that on almost every set of instructions for town there is a
picture of a town made up from sets available at the time the set was, but
with the USA/Canada[1] version of 675 [snack bar] there is a hospital that I
have never seen before.[2] This led me to the question...did LEGO only use
actual sets in these pictures, did they use sets that were being planned as
well, or did they just decide to build this one-off model for the picture?

Any help would be appreciated (I can try and scan the image if requested, too.)

Thanks,

Benjamin Whytcross

[1] I know this because the image shows the US fire station [engine Co No.
9], Exxon petrol tanker, and US lifeguard base

[2] the building is white, 22 studs long [presumably 6 or 7 deep], has two
red 1x4x3 frames with white windows on the left of ground floor, and two
similar frames o the right, possibly with glass, and with red and white
striped awnings [there would appear to be another window of the same around
the right-hand end.] This floor is topped with a red roof, with a smaller
structure on the left-hand end, being an 8x6 'room' with windows and
possibly a door opening onto the roof towards the 6x6 red cross tile pattern
on the right-hand end roof. in front of the building there is a red and
white medical car built on a red 4x10 chassis with two figures seated in it,
along with what appears to be a person being pushed in a wheel-chair. there
is a lamp-post and bench seat across from the left-hand end of the building,
and a red-cross flag at the left-hand end on the ground.

Strangely enough, this building appears on a 'T' intersection road plate and
the other sets shown all appear on the base-plates that they were released
on, with the only other road-plate set shown being the police station.

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: multi-set 'town' images on 1978-79 town instructions
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.inst, lugnet.town, lugnet.general
Date: 
Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:57:56 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Benjamin Whytcross writes:
G'day,

I was looking through my small collection of instructions the other day, and
I noticed that on almost every set of instructions for town there is a
picture of a town made up from sets available at the time the set was, but
with the USA/Canada[1] version of 675 [snack bar] there is a hospital that I
have never seen before.[2] This led me to the question...did LEGO only use
actual sets in these pictures, did they use sets that were being planned as
well, or did they just decide to build this one-off model for the picture?

Any help would be appreciated (I can try and scan the image if requested,
too.)

No need to scan it, it was in the '79 US catalog:
http://library.brickshelf.com/scans/catalogs/1979/c79us/c79us-11.html

I would guess it was a promotional set or something.  I don't think they would
have used a non-set for that image.

Strangely enough, this building appears on a 'T' intersection road plate and
the other sets shown all appear on the base-plates that they were released
on, with the only other road-plate set shown being the police station.

I'd also guess that it was released on that plate, if it is a real set.

Jeff

    
          
      
Subject: 
Re: multi-set 'town' images on 1978-79 town instructions
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.inst, lugnet.town, lugnet.general
Date: 
Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:05:30 GMT
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In lugnet.inst, Jeff Stembel writes:

No need to scan it, it was in the '79 US catalog:
http://library.brickshelf.com/scans/catalogs/1979/c79us/c79us-11.html

I would guess it was a promotional set or something.  I don't think they would
have used a non-set for that image.

Ah, seeing this image makes me feel all warm inside.  Pictures from that era
were from the first catalogs I had as a child.  As for the hospital, I
always assumed it was a Europe-only set (like the trains pictured in other
brochures of my youth).  But I just scrolled through a search of all Town
sets on Lugnet and did not see it.  In fact, I only saw these two:

From 1980: Paramedic Unit:
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6364

From 1987: Emergency Treatment Center:
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6380

Yet, I am almost certain there was at least one other small hospital-like
set available in the early 1990's.  Does anyone have a more complete list of
Town Hospital sets from TLC over the years?

-Hendo

     
           
      
Subject: 
Re: multi-set 'town' images on 1978-79 town instructions
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.inst, lugnet.town, lugnet.general
Date: 
Wed, 13 Nov 2002 00:28:57 GMT
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In lugnet.inst, John P. Henderson writes:
In lugnet.inst, Jeff Stembel writes:

No need to scan it, it was in the '79 US catalog:
http://library.brickshelf.com/scans/catalogs/1979/c79us/c79us-11.html

I would guess it was a promotional set or something.  I don't think they would
have used a non-set for that image.

Ah, seeing this image makes me feel all warm inside.  Pictures from that era
were from the first catalogs I had as a child.

Ditto.  Ah, the classic era from the late 70s to the late 80s.  I must stop
now, otherwise I will go on.  (sighs contentedly).

As for the hospital, I
always assumed it was a Europe-only set (like the trains pictured in other
brochures of my youth).  But I just scrolled through a search of all Town
sets on Lugnet and did not see it.  In fact, I only saw these two:

From 1980: Paramedic Unit:
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6364

From 1987: Emergency Treatment Center:
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6380


From 1987: Med-Star Rescue Plane
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6356

From 1978: Medic's Car
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/623_1

From 1989: Rescue Helicopter
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6482

From 1987: Red Cross
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6523

From 1981: Ambulance
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6629

From 198?: Ambulance
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6680

From 1987: Ambulance
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6688

From 1981: Red Cross Helicopter
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6691

These are all of the Town sets with minifigs that use the red cross.  There
are also a few Coast Gaurd sets, or rescue type sets that don't use a cross,
like 6697, 6666, and 1896.  AFIK, these were all of the Town medical sets,
with just the two hospitals.

There was one Enviro-Model Hospital, 363 and the US version, 555.  Dacta
also had a hospital 9364.  This one should have been released as a
mainstream Town set IMHO.  It even uses the same ambulance from 6380.
Anyway, that's all I could come up with.


Yet, I am almost certain there was at least one other small hospital-like
set available in the early 1990's.  Does anyone have a more complete list of
Town Hospital sets from TLC over the years?

-Hendo

Kyle Henneberque

P.S.  I like that catalog scan.  It's got a great little hospital set that
really should have been released.  That's a great looking little set, the
car that comes with it, too.  Another thing, did anyone else notice on the
scan around the corner to the left of the hospital a little Fire truck with
a trailer.  Not the ladder truck, but a little one that looks like a jeep
with a trailer.  It's the first time I've seen a minifig seated off to one
side as opposed to the middle in a 4-wide in an official picture.  Also,
does anyone know what set that little fire jeep came from?

     
           
       
Subject: 
Re: multi-set 'town' images on 1978-79 town instructions
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.inst, lugnet.town, lugnet.general
Date: 
Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:35:30 GMT
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In lugnet.inst, Kyle Henneberque writes:
P.S.  I like that catalog scan.  It's got a great little hospital set that
really should have been released.  That's a great looking little set, the
car that comes with it, too.  Another thing, did anyone else notice on the
scan around the corner to the left of the hospital a little Fire truck with
a trailer.  Not the ladder truck, but a little one that looks like a jeep
with a trailer.  It's the first time I've seen a minifig seated off to one
side as opposed to the middle in a 4-wide in an official picture.  Also,
does anyone know what set that little fire jeep came from?

G'day,

I think you'll find that the jeep came with the fire station set [at least
the international version did, and I assume the US version would have as well]

Incidentally, the image here is different to the one that I was originally
querying, but the hospital is the same set.

Benjamin Whytcross

     
           
       
Subject: 
Re: multi-set 'town' images on 1978-79 town instructions
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.inst, lugnet.town, lugnet.general
Date: 
Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:58:47 GMT
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In lugnet.inst, Kyle Henneberque writes:

These are all of the Town sets with minifigs that use the red cross.  There
are also a few Coast Gaurd sets, or rescue type sets that don't use a cross,
like 6697, 6666, and 1896.  AFIK, these were all of the Town medical sets,
with just the two hospitals.

Hmmm.  I could have sworn I once saw a hospital-type set that was available
briefly around the time of 6666, and with similar colors.  I recall seeing
it in a shelf-mounted catalog at a Service Merchandise in New Hampshire back
in the early 1990's.  If my memory serves, it was a one-story structure not
entirely unlike the Paramedic Unit 6364, but more modern and on a larger
plate.  Unfortunately, Service Merchandise no longer exists.  And my memory
is getting old.  I do remember thinking how it was a set I did not recognize
from other catalogs of the time.

-H.

     
           
      
Subject: 
Re: multi-set 'town' images on 1978-79 town instructions
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.inst, lugnet.town, lugnet.general
Date: 
Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:45:06 GMT
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Don't forget 770 (US) / 386 (Europe)
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/770

James Wilson
Lugnet #1783

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: multi-set 'town' images on 1978-79 town instructions
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.inst, lugnet.town, lugnet.general
Date: 
Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:00:56 GMT
Reply-To: 
Timothy D. Freshly <timothy.freshly@verizon.netANTISPAM>
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"Jeff Stembel" <aulddragon@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:H5F04K.Drt@lugnet.com...
In lugnet.general, Benjamin Whytcross writes:
G'day,

I was looking through my small collection of instructions the other day, • and
I noticed that on almost every set of instructions for town there is a
picture of a town made up from sets available at the time the set was, • but
with the USA/Canada[1] version of 675 [snack bar] there is a hospital • that I
have never seen before.[2] This led me to the question...did LEGO only • use
actual sets in these pictures, did they use sets that were being planned • as
well, or did they just decide to build this one-off model for the • picture?

Any help would be appreciated (I can try and scan the image if requested,
too.)

No need to scan it, it was in the '79 US catalog:
http://library.brickshelf.com/scans/catalogs/1979/c79us/c79us-11.html

The most interesting thing about that catalog picture is that the hospital
building is the ONLY "set" in that diorama that is NOT shown in the catalog.
That is something that I could never figure out.  Every other set in that
picture is in that catalog.  Even though I had (and still have) Engine
Company No. 9, I always thought that this hospital was the best set in that
entire scene.  I wonder if anyone at Lego can shed some light on this
mystery?  My guess is that this was a set that was scheduled for release but
for some reason was scrapped before production.

Tim

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: multi-set 'town' images on 1978-79 town instructions
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.inst, lugnet.town, lugnet.general
Date: 
Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:18:41 GMT
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In lugnet.inst, Benjamin Whytcross writes:
G'day,

I was looking through my small collection of instructions the other day, and
I noticed that on almost every set of instructions for town there is a
picture of a town made up from sets available at the time the set was, but
with the USA/Canada[1] version of 675 [snack bar] there is a hospital that I
have never seen before.[2] This led me to the question...did LEGO only use
actual sets in these pictures, did they use sets that were being planned as
well, or did they just decide to build this one-off model for the picture?

Any help would be appreciated (I can try and scan the image if requested, • too.)

Thanks,

Benjamin Whytcross

Funny you mention this. A few of us discussed this item during BrickFest 2002,
during my
'old Lego paperwork' session. My understanding is that indeed, these catalog
pictures are supposed to show real sets, and that hospital was planned as a
release, but never happened.
We all agreed it would have been a cool set.

This is not the only time this happened. Recently (1996) a set was pictured in
a catalog but never appeared: http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6500

Roy

 

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