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Re: Questions about fan involvement with TLC
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Sun, 16 Apr 2006 00:55:28 GMT
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Hi Ben,

I believe the original germ of the idea of ~abuse~ was just a HYPOTHETICAL example.

NO ONE has claimed that abuse has happened.


In lugnet.general, Benjamin Ellermann wrote:

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   The possibility of Ambassadors abusing Legend knowledge is unlikely if classic sets will no longer be re-released. Ambassadors are here to serve the needs of fans and LEGO instead of our own pocketbooks.

Ben Ellermann

:) <--- notice this

(cough)

(cough)

Swamberg(1)

(cough)


humans are funny creatures.


:)


Chris

1. Didn’t he hold a place of authority on some other fee for bricks web site?


Subject: 
Re: Questions about fan involvement with TLC
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Sun, 16 Apr 2006 04:18:22 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Chris Magno wrote:
   Hi Ben,

I believe the original germ of the idea of ~abuse~ was just a HYPOTHETICAL example.

NO ONE has claimed that abuse has happened.


In lugnet.general, Benjamin Ellermann wrote:

snip

   The possibility of Ambassadors abusing Legend knowledge is unlikely if classic sets will no longer be re-released. Ambassadors are here to serve the needs of fans and LEGO instead of our own pocketbooks.

snip

Chris is right, this is a hypothetical dicussion... but I not naive enough to believe that every Lego ambassador’s motive is purely altruistic in nature...

Probably a more realistic example is, if the LAs knew that next year, Lego will release 3 sets, ranging from $5-25, each containing an AT-AT Driver or Snowtrooper, where the on-average $25/minifig would dramatically drop -- I’m sure a LA would be tempted to unload all they had, as quickly as they could. It’s stuff like this that would be hard to track...

If I understand correctly, Lego (with Jake’s help) created the program to help future product releases appeal to/get input from the AFOL community; with the aim of selling more product & keeping profits up. The AFOL’s aim is to get a better quality product, with more value for an AFOL’s money. Meanwhile, the Lego company is doing everything possible to cut down costs... On one hand, I applaud the work Lego employees & LAs are doing together, but on the other hand, I know that every decision that the Lego Group makes will come down to money.

And a sad thing is, LAs could end up spending hours on helping develop a new product line (or make improvements to a line) and the line could be cancelled, because Bionicle is making higher profits that year... though, that could be great news for the LA working with Bionicle division...

It’s all about the pocketbook... it’s all about the perks... and unfortunately for Lego, it’ll be about how much spending money I have at the time & their current product lines... If Lego’s new product line don’t improve soon, I’ll be buying most of my Lego from the after-market sites... and that’s why I expect great things to come form this Lego Ambassador program... unfortunatly, from some of the indications I get, we might not see the improvements for a few years to come.

--Mike.


Subject: 
Re: Questions about fan involvement with TLC
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Date: 
Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:21:58 GMT
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(sniff)

YEARS!!!!

I was around from the “old days”

(wipes single tear from eye) (1)

I have enudured lots, the growing pains, the mocking, the “others.“(2) The rise and fall and rise again of nations and empires. After a while, you just give up. You sit by and watch, never expecting it, the hope of the words

(pause)

gone.

Then one day, out of no where, those words.....

the WORDS that I have D R E A M E D all these years to here....


In lugnet.general, Michael Huffman wrote:

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Chris is right,

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--Mike.


(sniff)

Thank you.

(sniff)

Chris

“...Chris is right.” MH




1. In a mannly way.

2. LOST is a weird but cool show


Subject: 
Re: OT (was Questions about fan involvement with TLC)
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lugnet.general
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lugnet.fun
Date: 
Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:37:19 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Chris Magno wrote:
   (sniff) YEARS!!!! (wipes single tear from eye) (1)

Snipped most of Chris’ melodrama

   “...Chris is right.” MH 1. In a mannly way.

Rolls eyes Yeah, right, whatever!


TO LUGNET MEMBERS~

He truly is darn near impossible. (1)

Janey “Red Brick”

1. Which of course, is one of the reasons I think he rocks. But shhhhh, please don’t tell him that, his head is big enough, and he really doesn’t need any encouragement from anyone.




Hey Chris, look, over here, question for the king..... (distracting him from my footnote)

Do you plan on enlightening the world with another outstanding “MOC of Artistic Destruction” this coming May at the “hobby show replacement”??? The art world holds its collective breath of intimidation... errr I mean, anticipation.

FUT to fun


Subject: 
Re: Questions about fan involvement with TLC
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lugnet.general
Date: 
Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:43:33 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Chris Magno wrote:
Hi Ben,

I believe the original germ of the idea of ~abuse~ was just a HYPOTHETICAL
example.


Yes, my original post brought up a hypothetical example with the 9 volt
discussion--the potential of NDA/Ambassador abuse in a situation.  And
subsequent posts from others outlining how differnet types of abuse may occur
shows that people have had similar concerns.

With this in mind, one of the points for current and future ambassadors is that
you are given priviledged LEGO related information before the rest of the fans.
People have brought up the idea of trust.  If the ambassadors want the trust of
the fans, then the ambassadors should work in a trustworthy fashion.

I'm not saying that they're not.  I have yet to see any ambassador act in a
selfish 'insider trading' way with regards to the NDA information they've
received.  I'm just bringing up the point that it *can* happen, and I'd like to
bring the idea up so that it *does not* happen.

I love this hobby.  I love when people come together and work on this hobby.  I
love the idea that TLC is working closer with us than they ever have before.  I
wholeheartedly endorse the ambassador programs and other programs that are set
up wehere fans of the brick work in conjunction with TLC.  And I would hate to
see animosity, distrust and/or the downfall of these programs due to perceived
or real happenings by a few selfish individuals.


NO ONE has claimed that abuse has happened.


In lugnet.general, Benjamin Ellermann wrote:

snip

The possibility of
Ambassadors abusing Legend knowledge is unlikely if classic sets will no
longer be re-released.  Ambassadors are here to serve the needs of fans and
LEGO instead of our own pocketbooks.

Ben Ellermann

:)  <---  notice this

(cough)

(cough)

Swamberg(1)

(cough)


humans are funny creatures.


:)


Chris

1. Didn't he hold a place of authority on some other fee for bricks web site?

Chris has such a far better way of stating it :)

Dave K


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