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Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts
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lugnet.general
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Thu, 7 Dec 2000 16:12:47 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Eric Joslin writes:
> But let's say I don't want your set. I don't want to buy the pieces you've
> collected. I want to use the pieces I already have to build my own copy.
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> You're saying you'd be upset about that?
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> Do you realise that according to Larry, at least two other members of
> the Guild of Bricksmiths disagree with you on that point?
Um, I'm not sure I disagree with James about anything. I'm mildly upset and
disappointed when someone chooses to copy my work, but I'm also kind of
flattered. Neither of those emotions translate into my actually *doing*
anything about it, as I've said before. Nor does it for James, as he's said
before.
James is being painted as taking a 'hard line' stance but I don't see it
that way at all. He and I are saying the same thing. If someone starts
knocking off his designs or mine, and making GoBs of money at it, we are
going to take whatever action is available and appropriate. But come on, we
do this mostly for fun, and partly to fund our hobby, just as part sellers
do. We aren't any of us making any huge sums of money and we are not in any
way shape or form a "threat" to TLC's market position and none of us is
delusional enough to think we are. There is no big threat of someone making
gobs of money at this.
Depending on how exactly TLC structures this "custom" model thing of theirs,
that can change. You can be sure that if it's structured properly I will be
submitting designs to it at a rapid clip (.005 royalty per brick maybe??).
On the other hand, have we increased the quality of models out there? I'd
like to think maybe a little. When I scan the lego-net I can find half a
dozen copies, imitations, knockoffs and designs inspired by my hopper (which
after all is one of the first kits released ever...) and most of those pages
acknowledge the inspiration. That's payment enough for me.
Have we opened people's eyes (even TLC's??) to what is possible with small
production run high end craftsman kits? Again, I'd like to think maybe a
little as well.
And we're not the only kit builders out there. Mechanised Brick, for
example, is not GoB affiliated. And that's fine. Let a hundred flowers bloom.
Frankly, if one reads the entire sub thread (in all its sprawling majesty,
across all three groups it's appeared in) I think most all of us (the
reasonable ones, anyway) are all actually saying the same thing, so I'm not
sure why we are in apparent disagreement!
++Lar
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Message has 4 Replies:
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| (...) This is where you're making your mistake: We aren't talking about someone selling sets that resemble GoB sets. We *are* talking about someone building the set FOR THEIR OWN USE without buying it. I agree completely that if someone copied one (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.general)
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| (...) That's not how I read (URL) James' later posts. I think James is saying he will take you to court if you look at a picture of his creation and try to build it out of your own bricks, even if you don't then sell it. Later he backpedals slightly (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.general)
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| (...) Why does it disappoint you? I've spent all my working life trying to get others to copy me. (...) I doubt LEGO will put GoBed sets in the shops. Or if they did, they'd dumb them down a little - would have accept that at even 0.006 / brick? (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.general)
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| (cross-posting to o-t.debate, this falls in between the cracks, I think. If it moves more Lego-wards, please drop .debate, vice versa if it moves more off-topic. Thanks) (...) OBDisclaimer: IMHO! I don't know James' mind(1), or yours, but FWIW, I (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) No, as I said before, out of simple disinterest. If I build a copy of something someone else built, what is the point of discussing it? What purpose could discussing it possibly serve? What would I gain as the poster, and what would people (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.general)
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