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In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
> I've been thinking a bit about those Wolfpack and Forestmen (1).
>
> First of all, I think the reason they are so sought after and viewed as "cool"
> by many castleers (aside from being hard-to-get :) is their rag-tag and
> slightly disorganized personality. Unlike the other subthemes, these don't
> have a defined-by-TLC leader (unlike King Leo, Majisto, etc) but are sort of
> improvised "armies".
> Their connotation is also very different. While most subthemes have a pretty
> clear cut connotation (eg RK -> good guys, FK -> bad guys), these groups are
> not definite. Some view them as thieves, others view them as wandering
> warriors.
>
> There's much more I can say about this, but another thing I came up with in
> the process of thinking about them:
> The WP seem forest-like to me. IMHO, brown is a great forest color and fits
> the forest life. The "forestmen" OTOH seem to fit a more lush, green valley
> life.
> In my realm, the WP will not be theives as many people view them. The
> forestmen might be, tho'. The WP will DEFINITELY have a leader in my world and
> they might (or might not) be allied with the FM.
>
> I have not thought out this whole idea but these were my first thoughts.
> LMKWYT!
>
> -Shiri
>
> (1) I say Forestmen but the referrence is to both Dark Forest AND Forestmen.
Right on, Shiri! I'd have to agree with just about everything. The one thing
that's different in my world is that the WP and Forestmen Coexist, each being
thieves. The Forestmen have kind of a Robin Hood-esque(?) appeal to them; the
whole steal from the rich and give to the poor thing. The WP, OTOH, are just
a bunch of guys who want more cash to finance their needs (beer, ale, other
various intoxicants, as well as weapons.) For my WP leader, I used the head
of the Hoth soldier, because it's got that bit of hair hanging down, and
there's a sly and mischievious look. As for the clear-cut good guy bad guy
thing, I just think it depends on who you ask. If my WP stole 10 barrels of
ale from the KK, then the KK regards them as "bad guys." If they sold that
ale to the DM, then the DM see them as "good guys." It probably would change
frequently. That's my take on this situation.
-Chris
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In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> Right on, Shiri! I'd have to agree with just about everything.
Well I'm glad we agree!
> The one thing
> that's different in my world is that the WP and Forestmen Coexist, each being
> thieves. The Forestmen have kind of a Robin Hood-esque(?) appeal to them; the
> whole steal from the rich and give to the poor thing.
You're right, I couldn't avoid that feeling too. But in my realm it's the WP
who are Robin-Hoodish... I really don't want to wreck my story but my WP
generally go against the royalty.
> The WP, OTOH, are just
> a bunch of guys who want more cash to finance their needs (beer, ale, other
> various intoxicants, as well as weapons.)
LOL! ..."other various intoxicants"... hehehe...
> For my WP leader, I used the head
> of the Hoth soldier, because it's got that bit of hair hanging down, and
> there's a sly and mischievious look.
I like that face. I used it for a less sly guy, though - a wizard.
> As for the clear-cut good guy bad guy
> thing, I just think it depends on who you ask. If my WP stole 10 barrels of
> ale from the KK, then the KK regards them as "bad guys." If they sold that
> ale to the DM, then the DM see them as "good guys."
<grin> It's all in the timing. (1)
I see what you mean, but I meant in the "real" people's eyes, not the minifigs.
Thanks for the second view!
-Shiri
(1) "It's all in the timing. My name's Bill, BTW."... ten bucks if you know
where that's from ;-)
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In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Shiri Dori writes:
> > I've been thinking a bit about those Wolfpack and Forestmen (1).
> >
> > There's much more I can say about this, but another thing I came up with in
> > the process of thinking about them:
> > The WP seem forest-like to me. IMHO, brown is a great forest color and fits
> > the forest life. The "forestmen" OTOH seem to fit a more lush, green valley
> > life.
> > In my realm, the WP will not be theives as many people view them. The
> > forestmen might be, tho'. The WP will DEFINITELY have a leader in my world • and
> > they might (or might not) be allied with the FM.
> >
> > (1) I say Forestmen but the referrence is to both Dark Forest AND Forestmen.
>
> Right on, Shiri! I'd have to agree with just about everything. The one thing
> that's different in my world is that the WP and Forestmen Coexist, each being
> thieves. The Forestmen have kind of a Robin Hood-esque(?) appeal to them; the
> whole steal from the rich and give to the poor thing. The WP, OTOH, are just
> a bunch of guys who want more cash to finance their needs (beer, ale, other
> various intoxicants, as well as weapons.)
Sounds cool when can we here more?
That sounds pretty cool how you compare those two factions, but what about the
bulls? In my "lego world" I used The Bulls and The Wolfpack together as a
Mercenary Guild who sell their services to the highest bidder. For the Leader
of the WP/Bulls is a druid named Harlan (Brown Cowl,Brown cape, WP torso,
Iceplanet 2002 old guy face and Homemade Staff)I'd like to describe their
Alignment as Chaotic Neutral with a streak of evil. They are idolized as
heroes by some and spit on like criminals by others. I also use the Forestmen
but I use them as elves instead (although there is a satyr in their ranks)well
those are just my thoughts
-Cj
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> That sounds pretty cool how you compare those two factions, but what about the
> bulls? In my "lego world" I used The Bulls and The Wolfpack together as a
> Mercenary Guild who sell their services to the highest bidder. For the Leader
> of the WP/Bulls is a druid named Harlan (Brown Cowl,Brown cape, WP torso,
> Iceplanet 2002 old guy face and Homemade Staff)I'd like to describe their
> Alignment as Chaotic Neutral with a streak of evil. They are idolized as
> heroes by some and spit on like criminals by others. I also use the Forestmen
> but I use them as elves instead (although there is a satyr in their ranks)well
> those are just my thoughts
> -Cj
Ah, foo. I forgot about the Bulls. In my world, they are the "real" bad
guys. None of the other factions like them or deal with them. They're just
a "keep to themselves except when the want more land or moolah" type of
minifigs. Also, like the ideas about the elves. I might have to check into
that...What do you use for legs?
-Chris
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In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> Ah, foo. I forgot about the Bulls. In my world, they are the "real" bad
> guys. None of the other factions like them or deal with them. They're just
> a "keep to themselves except when the want more land or moolah" type of
Shouldn't that be Moo-lah? =]
Just milking another bad joke from the udder-ly silly Bull faction. Now I'll
be hoofin' it out of here.
Tony
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> Shouldn't that be Moo-lah? =]
>
> Just milking another bad joke from the udder-ly silly Bull faction. Now I'll
> be hoofin' it out of here.
>
> Tony
I think that any bull kingdom should use the official currency of
moolah. It doesn't sound like anyone is actually going to be giving
them a kingdom. I know that I'm not. But that would be a good name for
their coins.
Timbo
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> I think that any bull kingdom should use the official currency of
> moolah. It doesn't sound like anyone is actually going to be giving
> them a kingdom. I know that I'm not. But that would be a good name for
> their coins.
>
> Timbo
Sounds like a plan, man. BTW, if I ever get enough bricks, I might consider
doing some sort of volcano-ish fiery fortress to house the Bulls. Just a
thought.
-Chris
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In lugnet.castle, Tony A. Rowe writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Chris Maddison writes:
> > Ah, foo. I forgot about the Bulls. In my world, they are the "real" bad
> > guys. None of the other factions like them or deal with them. They're just
> > a "keep to themselves except when the want more land or moolah" type of
>
> Shouldn't that be Moo-lah? =]
>
> Just milking another bad joke from the udder-ly silly Bull faction. Now I'll
> be hoofin' it out of here.
Cheez, I'm havin' a cow! I calf stand this anymore...
My Bull section is udder-ly unimportant. I have four of 'em and prefer to
ignore them. I might use the torsos that came w/o the emblem but the others
can stay in storage for now. The faces all came to a good use, tho'.
-Shiri
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In lugnet.castle, Carl Catuogno writes:
> That sounds pretty cool how you compare those two factions, but what about the
> bulls? In my "lego world" I used The Bulls and The Wolfpack together as a
> Mercenary Guild who sell their services to the highest bidder. For the Leader
> of the WP/Bulls is a druid named Harlan (Brown Cowl,Brown cape, WP torso,
> Iceplanet 2002 old guy face and Homemade Staff)I'd like to describe their
> Alignment as Chaotic Neutral with a streak of evil. They are idolized as
> heroes by some and spit on like criminals by others. I also use the Forestmen
> but I use them as elves instead (although there is a satyr in their ranks)well
> those are just my thoughts
> -Cj
I guess I wasn't the only one who used the bulls as Mercenary Guild/Camp. My
evil prince hires them as a group to help him win the war. I guess I had
better explain a little of my story board.
I noticed that the new 2000 knights have a very similar crest to the Royal
Knights. I'm using the Royal Knights as a rebellious prince who is jealous
because his older brother is getting the throne. Now daddy(the 2000 King and
his knights) have to stop him from taking over the kingdom.
Rob
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In lugnet.castle, Rob Drechsel writes:
> I guess I wasn't the only one who used the bulls as Mercenary Guild/Camp. My
> evil prince hires them as a group to help him win the war. I guess I had
> better explain a little of my story board.
> I noticed that the new 2000 knights have a very similar crest to the Royal
> Knights. I'm using the Royal Knights as a rebellious prince who is jealous
> because his older brother is getting the throne. Now daddy(the 2000 King and
> his knights) have to stop him from taking over the kingdom.
Great ideas! I noticed the similar crest as well, and my RK and KK have
actually united. I use the different shields for different factions of the
army (eg swordsmen use the KK shield while spearmen have the RK shield).
-Shiri
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Shiri Dori wrote:
>
> In lugnet.castle, Rob Drechsel writes:
> > I guess I wasn't the only one who used the bulls as Mercenary Guild/Camp. My
> > evil prince hires them as a group to help him win the war. I guess I had
> > better explain a little of my story board.
> > I noticed that the new 2000 knights have a very similar crest to the Royal
> > Knights. I'm using the Royal Knights as a rebellious prince who is jealous
> > because his older brother is getting the throne. Now daddy(the 2000 King and
> > his knights) have to stop him from taking over the kingdom.
>
> Great ideas! I noticed the similar crest as well, and my RK and KK have
> actually united. I use the different shields for different factions of the
> army (eg swordsmen use the KK shield while spearmen have the RK shield).
I'll come out of hiding because you're talking about something I'm
interested in... figuring out how to organize my knights, if/when I
decide to create a large(ish) castke... ;)
OK, I have a total of 1 or 2 RK. Since I'll have so few compared to
the KK, I'd use them (or their bodies/shields) as elite/unique soldiers
of the KK. The old "crusaders" I have would be somehow aligned with the
KK/RK (lion thing and all), but I never decided as to how. The Black
Falcons and Black Monarchs are also aligned, and probably in a similar
maner as before, with the BF being a subgroup of the BM (because of
name, really). The guys with the crossed axes on their bodies are
rent-a-guard (like the Monty Python and the Holy Grail... should give
them the new kettle helms :) ). I have 1(!) wolfpack, so I don't know
how he fits in. The Bulls are mercs. At some point the magic guys pop
in (I allign the Dragon Masters and the FK, with the FK in charge), or I
could use the DM symbols as an elite group of BM, with the FK symbol
guys as a non-magical 3rd faction. :)
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