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In lugnet.castle, David Laswell wrote:
> Ooh! I think I got it! There's a <http://news.lugnet.com/general/?n=44972
> new piece> that's coming out this year. It's a 1x1 brick with studs on two
> sides. If you take a plate and a bunch of these new bricks and place them
> with alternating orientation, you can attach tiles to the two side studs and
> it should give you something roughly similar to what you've got with the
> above image. Each brick would have two tiles attached to it and two more
> held against it by adjacent bricks on the non-stud sides. The resulting look
> will have tile-thick square gaps at each junction, but everything will be
> attached pretty solidly.
Also you would keep the ability to atach bottles to the studs, something not
possible when using the headlight bricks. I think I will try to build the two
solutions for real (maybe even a combination of both), to see how practicly
feasable these are.
With friendly greetings, M. Moolhuysen.
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In lugnet.castle, Manfred Moolhuysen wrote:
> Also you would keep the ability to atach bottles to the studs, something not
> possible when using the headlight bricks.
That's true, but your version shouldn't require headlight bricks, should it?
> I think I will try to build the two solutions for real (maybe even a
> combination of both), to see how practicly feasable these are.
I did a quicky test using a 1x1 with four studs just to see if a tile will fit
between the two bricks, and it does work. Since you'd be using 1x1 bricks to
hold everything on, you know you'll have enough width for the tiles to fit
between each other. The only feasibility problem is that it'll require parts
from a ton of X-Pods to do a goodly sized wine rack. To do just an 8x8 rack
you'd need 32 of them. Currently Peeron just lists two available with the green
X-Pod, and Bricklink doesn't have any available. I don't have any yet, hence
the distinct lack of demo. Actually, I just realized something stupid. If you
alternate between 5-stud bricks and regular 1x1's, you can put all of the tiles
around the 5-studs and just use the 1x1's to fill in the gap and pinch the tiles
in place, making it considerably more feasible for the average builder.
The long-tiled look will still look a bit more realistic as an actual wooden
construction, though (BTW, have you considered putting a 1x8 tile in the middle
slant so you don't have a break in the middle that would allow the pieces to
spill out?).
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It's nice to see such fruitfull and inspiring feedback.
In lugnet.castle, David Laswell wrote:
> In lugnet.castle, Manfred Moolhuysen wrote:
> > Also you would keep the ability to atach bottles to the studs, something not
> > possible when using the headlight bricks.
>
> That's true, but your version shouldn't require headlight bricks, should it?
My LDraw mockup has been modeled with headlight bricks, based on their common
availability, and because I prefered to point the smooth top surface of the
tiles 1x2 all upwards in the same direction, instead of alternating bottom side
and top side up.
> > I think I will try to build the two solutions for real (maybe even a
> > combination of both), to see how practicly feasible these are.
>
> I did a quicky test using a 1x1 with four studs just to see if a tile will
> fit between the two bricks, and it does work. Since you'd be using 1x1
> bricks to hold everything on, ...[snip]
Sorry for that, I expressed myself a bit sloppy. I meant feasibility of using
long tiles and keeping these in place or combination of long tiles and bricks
1x1 with 3 studs. I believed you on your word (and on my imagination) that using
1x1 bricks with 3 studs and only 1x2 tiles would fit.
> Actually, I just realized something stupid. If you alternate between 5-stud
> bricks and regular 1x1's, you can put all of the tiles
> around the 5-studs and just use the 1x1's to fill in the gap and pinch the
> > tiles in place, making it considerably more feasible for the average builder.
Good thinking.
> The long-tiled look will still look a bit more realistic as an actual wooden
> construction, though (BTW, have you considered putting a 1x8 tile in the
> middle slant so you don't have a break in the middle that would allow the
> pieces to spill out?).
Yes, I drawed the principle mockup fairly quickly (during my work break) not yet
knowing 100% what tiles would end up where. For a real attempt I agree I would
probably limit the heigth or witdh of the rack so that the maximum required
diagonal could be made with a single tile 1x8.
With friendly greetings, M. Moolhuysen.
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In lugnet.castle, Manfred Moolhuysen wrote:
> My LDraw mockup has been modeled with headlight bricks, based on their common
> availability, and because I prefered to point the smooth top surface of the
> tiles 1x2 all upwards in the same direction, instead of alternating bottom
> side and top side up.
Yeah, that was something I wasn't happy about with my idea, but I figured it
wouldn't be so bad if you made sure the hollow-up tiles were covered with
conveniently-placed wine bottles. Fortunately, it's actually possible to leave
open smooth-up tiles when you use the 5-stud bricks instead of the new 3-studs.
Another possible variant on your design would be to use 1x1 TECHNIC bricks with
stud-pins instead of headlight bricks. That would take care of the problem of
not being able to attach the bottles to studs, though it might not be as
structurally sound.
> Sorry for that, I expressed myself a bit sloppy. I meant feasibility of using
> long tiles and keeping these in place or combination of long tiles and bricks
> 1x1 with 3 studs. I believed you on your word (and on my imagination) that
> using 1x1 bricks with 3 studs and only 1x2 tiles would fit.
No problem. Until those 3-studs get released in greater quantities, I'm
thinking that version is effectively off-limits for those with smaller pockets,
but your version and my 5-stud version should be fairly simple to produce.
> Yes, I drawed the principle mockup fairly quickly (during my work break) not
> yet knowing 100% what tiles would end up where. For a real attempt I agree I
> would probably limit the heigth or witdh of the rack so that the maximum
> required diagonal could be made with a single tile 1x8.
I don't think it'd be too difficult to pull off. After all, if you want taller
racks, you can always flip the design up on end and build more skinny sections,
and there really shouldn't be any limit to how long you can extend it in one
direction.
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