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Question about "stickers"
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Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:27:28 GMT
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So far, the only standard I’ve found about modeling sticker “parts” is that they should be 0.25 LU off the surface of the piece they will be “stickered” to. What about width & length compared to the surface? I.E: sticker for shields - should they extend to the edge of the shield or perhaps 1 LU in from the edge?

Here’s a test of what I mean. The one on the left has the sticker to the edge of the shield, the one on the right has the sticker “cut” all around by 1 LU. Personally, I want to go with the “cut” style.



   
         
     
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Re: Question about "stickers"
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Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:08:05 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Mark Chittenden wrote:
So far, the only standard I've found about modeling sticker "parts" is that
they should be 0.25 LU off the surface of the piece they will be "stickered"
to. What about width & length compared to the surface? I.E: sticker for
shields - should they extend to the edge of the shield or perhaps 1 LU in
from the edge?

Here's a test of what I mean. The one on the left has the sticker to the edge
of the shield, the one on the right has the sticker "cut" all around by 1 LU.
Personally, I want to go with the "cut" style.
--SNIP PIC--

Hi Mark,

I would assume that if it is a user created sticker you can put it where you
want. For official stickers I assume you make them the same size as the original
sticker. Which sort do you mean?

I suspect the 0.25 LDU is probably so that it looks like a sticker and so that
display software has a fixed distance to consider things as 'different' points
(so that for example (1,0,0) and (1.1,0,0) might be treated as the same point
while (1,0,0) and (1.2,0,0) would be different).

But I am not on the LSC so these are just guesses.

Tim

    
          
     
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Re: Question about "stickers"
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Fri, 12 Aug 2005 22:51:24 GMT
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I am also not on the LSC but I think that Tim's remarks make a lot of sense.

   
         
     
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Re: Question about "stickers"
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Fri, 12 Aug 2005 23:14:51 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Mark Chittenden wrote:
   So far, the only standard I’ve found about modeling sticker “parts” is that they should be 0.25 LU off the surface of the piece they will be “stickered” to. What about width & length compared to the surface? I.E: sticker for shields - should they extend to the edge of the shield or perhaps 1 LU in from the edge?

Hi Mark,

I agree with Tim. I don’t think this should be a set standard, you should make the stickers a size that looks good. In your case, I think I prefer the 1LDU inset, but it’s really up to you.

The 0.25 LDU is just to try & make sure the bricks behind don’t peep through when rendering. Though it depends on the renderer, 0.25 LDU seems to work well with the ones commonly used for rendering LDraw models.

ROSCO

   
         
   
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Re: Question about "stickers"
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Sat, 13 Aug 2005 02:41:21 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Mark Chittenden wrote:
So far, the only standard I've found about modeling sticker "parts" is that
they should be 0.25 LU off the surface of the piece they will be "stickered"
to. What about width & length compared to the surface? I.E: sticker for
shields - should they extend to the edge of the shield or perhaps 1 LU in
from the edge?

You make the sticker whatever size it actually is.  If it's 40 LDU wide and
extend to the edges then that's what you make.  A sticker is just like any other
part: it must be modelled as close to the real life part as possible (including
size).

-Orion

   
         
   
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Re: Question about "stickers"
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Tue, 16 Aug 2005 19:43:39 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Orion Pobursky wrote:
You make the sticker whatever size it actually is.  If it's 40 LDU wide and
extend to the edges then that's what you make.  A sticker is just like any other
part: it must be modelled as close to the real life part as possible (including
size).

-Orion

Well, specifically I'm working on modeling the stickers from set 0375 (Fort with
Knights aka the Yellow Castle), in particular the shield and vest stickers. But
since I do not own an actual copy of set 0375, I can't measure the actual
stickers. I have jpg scan copies of one sticker sheet example, but I can't tell
how big the stickers would be compared to the surface they are to stick to
(since the scans are high resolution, they do not print out at "actual size").
Can anyone out there provide actual measurements of the stickers from this set?


p.s: I do have a couple shields with original stickers still attached, but there
are differences in the sticker's sizes as well as in the colors (apparently
there have been a few printing differences in the stickers for this set).

   
         
   
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Re: Question about "stickers"
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Date: 
Mon, 5 Sep 2005 22:02:21 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Mark Chittenden wrote:
In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Orion Pobursky wrote:
You make the sticker whatever size it actually is.  If it's 40 LDU wide and
extend to the edges then that's what you make.  A sticker is just like any other
part: it must be modelled as close to the real life part as possible (including
size).

-Orion

Well, specifically I'm working on modeling the stickers from set 0375 (Fort with
Knights aka the Yellow Castle), in particular the shield and vest stickers. But
since I do not own an actual copy of set 0375, I can't measure the actual
stickers. I have jpg scan copies of one sticker sheet example, but I can't tell
how big the stickers would be compared to the surface they are to stick to
(since the scans are high resolution, they do not print out at "actual size").
Can anyone out there provide actual measurements of the stickers from this set?


p.s: I do have a couple shields with original stickers still attached, but there
are differences in the sticker's sizes as well as in the colors (apparently
there have been a few printing differences in the stickers for this set).

hi mark,

I've never got reply when I sent you the scan of my stickers (suppose the mail
has been eaten up by some spam filter) and therefore I'll post the link her:

http://www.holly-wood.it/tmp/castle.jpg (234 KB)

I also measured the stickers (though they are not in the best shape :-( and I've
got an average width of 14.7 mm. using paul's LCad calculator you'll get 37.039
LDU. I suggest rounding the stickers to 37 LDU.

bye, w.

   
         
   
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Re: Question about "stickers"
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Date: 
Tue, 6 Sep 2005 05:14:31 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Willy Tschager wrote:
In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Mark Chittenden wrote:
In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Orion Pobursky wrote:
You make the sticker whatever size it actually is.  If it's 40 LDU wide and
extend to the edges then that's what you make.  A sticker is just like any other
part: it must be modelled as close to the real life part as possible (including
size).

-Orion

Well, specifically I'm working on modeling the stickers from set 0375 (Fort with
Knights aka the Yellow Castle), in particular the shield and vest stickers. But
since I do not own an actual copy of set 0375, I can't measure the actual
stickers. I have jpg scan copies of one sticker sheet example, but I can't tell
how big the stickers would be compared to the surface they are to stick to
(since the scans are high resolution, they do not print out at "actual size").
Can anyone out there provide actual measurements of the stickers from this set?


p.s: I do have a couple shields with original stickers still attached, but there
are differences in the sticker's sizes as well as in the colors (apparently
there have been a few printing differences in the stickers for this set).

hi mark,

I've never got reply when I sent you the scan of my stickers (suppose the mail
has been eaten up by some spam filter) and therefore I'll post the link her:

http://www.holly-wood.it/tmp/castle.jpg (234 KB)

I also measured the stickers (though they are not in the best shape :-( and I've
got an average width of 14.7 mm. using paul's LCad calculator you'll get 37.039
LDU. I suggest rounding the stickers to 37 LDU.

bye, w.

In this case, I think you should make them the same size as the shield, armor,
or flag face.

-ORion

 

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