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How many unique minifig faces are there?
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I was pondering this question recently, and wondered if anyone had already
set out to answer it.  Unable to find any comprehensive collection of
minifig faces already on the web, I decided to make one of my own by
scanning every unique minifig face in my collection:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=24145

I then looked through Bricklink and Baylit for faces I don't have, and
collected those in this folder:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=24172
(note - this second folder has not yet been moderated)

By "unique minifig face", I mean any minifig face on a standard
"head-shaped" element.  Jar-Jar and Yoda molded heads, for example, don't
count.  I'm  counting heads with no printing as a unique "face", and heads
with two faces, like the new Studio minifigs, as two unique faces.

You'll notice that I have made modifications to some of my heads.  For these
I've scanned both the original faces and the modified version.  This is just
for my convenience, and I am not counting any of my modifications as unique
faces.  All faces I've modified have "mod" in their name.

So what's the total?

I count 178 unique faces that I have in my collection (there's one
Adventurer I forgot to scan), and another 51 faces I don't have.  That
brings the total to 229.

Beyond just trying to answer the question of how many unique minifig faces
LEGO has made, I've created this Brickshelf gallery to conveniently keep
track of faces I do and don't already have.  I hope it is also of some use
to others trying to do the same, or those who just want to have a place to
see what's out there.  People should also feel free to use these scans for
their own projects, even if its just to have better quality images on sites
like Bricklink.

If someone is particularly inspired, it would be very cool to get these
images into a searchable database of minifig faces that groups them
according to appearance, sets they come in, year releaed, etc.  I'd try this
myself, but unfortunately just don't have the time for such a project right now.

By the way, the numbers I've assigned to the faces should not be construed
to give any particular information about the faces except the order in which
I happened to scan them.

If anyone notices mistakes I've made, feel free to e-mail me, and I'll try
to correct them.  Also, if anyone has images of further faces I have not
listed in the Faces I Don't Have folder, or clearer versions of ones already
there, feel free to e-mail them to me or direct me to the image's URL.

Thanks, and enjoy...

-The Rev. Brendan Powell Smith


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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Thanks for doing this -- it's a start on a great resource.  I question
one of the faces you have posted, however.  The one at 090.jpg looks
to me to be a modified "Cam" face from the Alpha Team series -- see
the whole minifigure at http://home.att.net/~locker99/alpha/cam.htm

Your 090.jpg seems to be this face with the microphone removed, or
are you aware of it being released in another set without the mike?

In lugnet.build.minifigs, Brendan Powell Smith writes:
I was pondering this question recently, and wondered if anyone had already
set out to answer it.  Unable to find any comprehensive collection of
minifig faces already on the web, I decided to make one of my own by
scanning every unique minifig face in my collection:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=24145

<snipped remainder of message>


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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In lugnet.build.minifigs, Brendan Powell Smith writes:

[snip a lot]

Thanks, and enjoy...

Well, I just did.

Thanks a lot Brendan for this gallery.
I knew that there are quite some different faces in Minifig-land (and a whole
bunch of cleverly chosen ones I saw first at the Brick Testament) but I
wouldn't have guessed there are so many!
The list will sure help a lot when searching for a matching face for a certain
character. And it's a lot of fun just looking at all those yellow-heads, too.

Is there actually any difference between 012 and 100?

regards,

-Norman


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:54:23 GMT
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I enjoyed it a lot, but one thing is bothering me.  Do you count heads with
an open stud different from one with the same pattern with a closed stud?
Just curious.  Also, does anyone have any plans to make a database of
different patterned pieces?  It would be a great help for parts authors


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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In lugnet.build.minifigs, Brendan Powell Smith writes:


If someone is particularly inspired, it would be very cool to get these
images into a searchable database of minifig faces that groups them
according to appearance, sets they come in, year releaed, etc.  I'd try this
myself, but unfortunately just don't have the time for such a project right • now.

Could these be "fed" into Peeron, and linked into set inventories?  A few
set inventories there now have actual pictures of specific heads.

Or (shameless plug follows), set appearance information for many of the
minifigures which have these faces is at three minifig reference sites:

Locker 99 Minifig reference at http://home.att.net/~locker99/index.htm
Minimundo! at http://www.minimundo.de/
BrickSet at http://huw.brinkster.net/ (use the minifig browser)


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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In lugnet.build.minifigs, Paul Ferguson writes:
In lugnet.build.minifigs, Brendan Powell Smith writes:


If someone is particularly inspired, it would be very cool to get these
images into a searchable database of minifig faces that groups them
according to appearance, sets they come in, year releaed, etc.  I'd try this
myself, but unfortunately just don't have the time for such a project right
now.

BrickSet at http://huw.brinkster.net/ (use the minifig browser)

Speaking of it, the minifig browser has not worked for me for a while. I hit
"go" and it never goes anywhere. Any idea why?


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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There's a Pumkin head missing, the lines are darker...

Josh


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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Hmm, it works for me.  I click on the "minifig browser" part of the
navigation bar at the top, and then I get a drop down menu (left
side of page) to pick a theme.  I pick a theme and, voila, the
Brickset info on minifigs for that theme appears.

In lugnet.build.minifigs, John Morgan writes:

<snip>

Speaking of it, the minifig browser has not worked for me for a while. I hit
"go" and it never goes anywhere. Any idea why?


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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In lugnet.build.minifigs, Paul Ferguson writes:
Thanks for doing this -- it's a start on a great resource.

You're welcome.  I'm glad others will get some use or enjoyment out of it.

I question one of the faces you have posted, however.  The one at
090.jpg looks to me to be a modified "Cam" face from the Alpha
Team...
Your 090.jpg seems to be this face with the microphone removed, or
are you aware of it being released in another set without the mike?

You are correct, and this is just the type of thing I thought I might miss.
Like many others, I have a severe dislike for the printed microphone disease
(PMD) that has infected so many minifigs of late, so when I find one, the
first thing I do is whip out my scalpel and apply a quick "cure".  @8^)

I will make the correction, adding "mod" to my scan of 090.jpg.

Thanks!

-Rev. Smith


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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In lugnet.build.minifigs, Norman Mensing writes:
Is there actually any difference between 012 and 100?

It takes a very fine eye to see it, but yes, there is a very slight
difference in the right quadrant of the left eyebrow, you will notice a 15%
declination of the black ink which is present in 012 but lacking in 100.

OK, I'm joking.

You've caught another error.  @8^)

Thanks!  I'll fix it.

-Rev. Smith


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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In lugnet.build.minifigs, Brendan Powell Smith writes:
I was pondering this question recently, and wondered if anyone had already
set out to answer it.  Unable to find any comprehensive collection of
minifig faces already on the web, I decided to make one of my own by
scanning every unique minifig face in my collection:

I didn't see one of my all-time favorite figs, BIKER BOB!

http://guide.lugnet.com/set/2584

Here's his head, courtesy of Bricklink...

http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?PartID=3626bpx128

Great resource though, although I must admit sometimes I identify these
heads more with the Brick Testament than with the Lego sets they appear in!

-Mikey


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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In lugnet.build.minifigs, Josh Baakko writes:
There's a Pumkin head missing, the lines are darker...

Has this been established as a "different" face?  Or are they just
variations in darkness of the same face?

I don't really have an opinion either way, but if other people want to argue
it out, I'll sit back and listen.  @8^)

-Rev. Smith


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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In lugnet.build.minifigs, Spencer Nowak writes:
I enjoyed it a lot, but one thing is bothering me.  Do you count heads with
an open stud different from one with the same pattern with a closed stud?
Just curious.

I wasn't planning on counting open/closed stud heads as "different faces",
although I could certainly see them as being considered "different heads".

I also see the necessity in differentiating between the two types of studs
on sites like Bricklink, so the buyer knows what to expect.  But for a
catalog of faces, it doesn't seem to be a significant enough factor to
warrant a separate number, at least to me.

As I mentioned, I'm fine with people using these scans for their own
projects, and if someone wants to make their own face catalog or database,
or head catalog or database, they are welcome to distinguish between open
and closed studs and along whatever other lines they choose.

-Rev. Smith


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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In lugnet.build.minifigs, Michael L. Kohan writes:
I didn't see one of my all-time favorite figs, BIKER BOB!

Hey, Biker Bob is pretty cool.  I'd never seen him before.  Thanks for the
URLs.  I'll add his head to the Don't-Have page.

Great resource though, although I must admit sometimes I identify these
heads more with the Brick Testament than with the Lego sets they appear in!

That's funny.  I myself think of some of these faces in terms of "oh, yeah,
there's Peter the disciple" or "that one's John the Baptist as well as The
Chief Cup-Bearer of Pharaoh", but I didn't think anyone else would be like
that.  @8^)

Thanks for the input.

-Rev. Smith


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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In lugnet.build.minifigs, Spencer Nowak writes:
I enjoyed it a lot, but one thing is bothering me.  Do you count heads with
an open stud different from one with the same pattern with a closed stud?
Just curious.  Also, does anyone have any plans to make a database of
different patterned pieces?  It would be a great help for parts authors

G'day,

I've actually been toying with building a parts database containing
different printed parts, part variations [solid/hollow studs] and eventually
parts version [pat pend on base, part number, lattice/cylinder
plates]...looks like I'd better get on with it :)

Benjamin Whytcross


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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Hi.  I've made updates to the Brickshelf galleries (we'll have to wait for
modification again to see them, of course), fixing the errors mentioned above.

The Adventurer I'd forgotten to scan has become face 012, replacing the
duplicate of face 100.

I've also added a scan of the unmodified Batlord face, as well as another
Hydronaut face I just realized I had.

I've also added my recent modification of face 177, so if you're interested
in seeing what Harry Potter looks like without glasses, check out:

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/revbps/Minifig-Faces/177mod.jpg

-Rev. Smith


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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In lugnet.build.minifigs, Brendan Powell Smith writes:
I was pondering this question recently, and wondered if anyone had already
set out to answer it.  Unable to find any comprehensive collection of
minifig faces already on the web

Hey Brendan,

Cool face catalog.  You might want to look at the site currently up for CLSOTW:
http://www.minimundo.de/
They have scans of minifigs by theme.  Quite a comprehensive list.  Not just
faces, but you could use this as a resource to know what faces you're
missing.  Oh, one neat feature I didn't notice at first is if you run your
mouse across a fig with a helmet or a dual-sided head you get an alternate
picture.

Bruce


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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Just a few more notes:

Head 171 from your "have" gallery is the "werewolf guy" from the "don't
have" gallery. Also, in the "don't have' gallery, aren't locker99-01 and
3626bpx95 the same? And "have" face 138, the glow in the dark evil skull is
also available on a white head, Ogel's drones. Don't know if that merits a
separate entry.

You really should think about submitting all the pictures in the "have"
gallery to Bricklink as large images, or replacements for some of their
existing small catalog photos, they're really great closeups that show lots
of detail. Or, give me permission to do it :)

-Mikey


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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In lugnet.build.minifigs, Bruce Hietbrink writes:
Cool face catalog.  You might want to look at the site currently up for CLSOTW:
http://www.minimundo.de/

Hi, Bruce.

Thanks for pointing that site out to me, it's excellent.

I was able to find 8 new faces there I don't already have on the Don't-Have
page.  I'll add those along with 3 of the new LEGO Racers tonight, plus an
image of Hagird-without-the-beard who I know I have, but can't seem to locate.

Hey, can anyone tell me: is the "Lady" face from the new studio sets
different from "Mary Jane" from the Spiderman sets?  Both sides of their
faces look very similar, but it's hard to tell if there's a difference.

Thanks,

-Rev. Smith


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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In lugnet.build.minifigs, Michael L. Kohan writes:
Head 171 from your "have" gallery is the "werewolf guy" from the "don't
have" gallery.

Thanks.  I couldn't tell from the images of him I'd seen.

Also, in the "don't have' gallery, aren't locker99-01 and
3626bpx95 the same?

Yes.  I've now deleted one of them.

And "have" face 138, the glow in the dark evil skull is
also available on a white head, Ogel's drones. Don't know if that merits a
separate entry.

Thanks again.  I wasn't aware there were two variations.  I would say having
a different background head color warrants a separate entry.  I found an
image of the white version on Bricklink and will upload it tonight.

You really should think about submitting all the pictures in the "have"
gallery to Bricklink as large images, or replacements for some of their
existing small catalog photos, they're really great closeups that show lots
of detail. Or, give me permission to do it :)

This is an excelent suggestion, and I'd tell you to do it except that a
Bricklink Catalog Administrator has already volunteered to add them, so they
should be available there soon.

Thanks for the corrections!

-Rev. Smith


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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In lugnet.build.minifigs, Brendan Powell Smith writes:
Unable to find any comprehensive collection of
minifig faces already on the web, I decided to make one of my own by
scanning every unique minifig face in my collection:

Reverend,

I am sure that there is now a whole class of people who feel obligated to
collect every head.

So, by your action, I am sure you have now caused an increase in the value of
certain rare heads!

Suggestion - heads are not just ordinary pieces. Surely we need a rating system
against them so we can know Lugnet's favourite....

Mark


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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In lugnet.build.minifigs, Brendan Powell Smith writes:

Hey, can anyone tell me: is the "Lady" face from the new studio sets
different from "Mary Jane" from the Spiderman sets?  Both sides of their
faces look very similar, but it's hard to tell if there's a difference.

Brendan,

The woman in the Werewolf set and the Mary Jane heads (and hair) are the
same.  I looked at them this morning to be sure.

Bruce


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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Where is this head from?
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=234008

Josh


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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This head is from 7133 (http://guide.lugnet.com/set/7133).  It is one side
of the head of the Zam Wessel minifig.

Adam

In lugnet.build.minifigs, Josh Baakko writes:
Where is this head from?
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=234008

Josh


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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In lugnet.build.minifigs, Mark Jordan writes:
Reverend,

I am sure that there is now a whole class of people who feel obligated to
collect every head.

You're probably right, Mark, and as I was scanning all those heads I thought
about whether or not I should try to collect one of every head myself.  I
felt a certain urge to go for it, but then I worried that I'd be doing it
just for collection's sake.  It seemed a slippery slope to go from getting
one of every head to getting a mint-condition verison of each head.  And
when something is mint condition, that means you never build with it.  And
that goes against my very purpose of acquiring so many different heads in
the first place.  Sure, I'd like to have one of every minifig head, but only
because when I am building minifigs, I like to have every option available
to me so I give them just the right character.

Although I like to build in all themes, since my main project is The Brick
Testament, I'm probably not going to go way out of my way to get every last
space, alien, or bespectacled minifig head.

So, by your action, I am sure you have now caused an increase in the value of
certain rare heads!

Oops.  Sorry about that.  But I think this sort of thing was bound to
happen.  I just hope the usefulness of the minifig face catalog I've put
together offsets any unintended negative side effects.  So just think about
that next time you plunk down $8 on Bricklink for a Nestle Quick bunny head.
@8^)

Suggestion - heads are not just ordinary pieces. Surely we need a rating system
against them so we can know Lugnet's favourite....

It would be fun to know what heads are people's favorites.  For me, heads
fall into two main catagories: 1) Those that have so much character to them,
that while sometimes very cool for making one sort of minifig, you can't do
a lot else with them (examples: Willa the witch's head, the Ogel guy with
one red eye), and 2) Those that are more plain, but can be used to make all
sorts of minifig characters, across the various themes (example: Han Solo's
head makes for a generic smug character, whereas the Emperor's head is a
generic old person head).  It's sort of hard to compare the two catagories
when choosing a favorite.  But hey, if someone were to make a poll, I'd give
it a shot.

-Rev. Smith  @8^)


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Re: How many unique minifig faces are there?
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In lugnet.market.theory, Brendan Powell Smith writes:

I
felt a certain urge to go for it, but then I worried that I'd be doing it
just for collection's sake.  It seemed a slippery slope to go from getting
one of every head to getting a mint-condition verison of each head.  And
when something is mint condition, that means you never build with it.  And
that goes against my very purpose of acquiring so many different heads in
the first place.

Hmmmn. This looks like you are daring me to dare you to include _every_ head
you own in the Brick Testament. Others may think that your imagination is
not up to it. But I definitely think you'll be able to pull it off.

Mark

PS Please do the one about the bald guy, the kids, and the she-bear.


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