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Re: In conclusion... (my stance hasn't changed)
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Fri, 20 Oct 2000 18:16:02 GMT
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 17:40:46 GMT, "James Simpson" <jsimpson@rice.edu>
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> Matthew:
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> Please give up the martyr routine.
I hope that's not how I'm being viewed. I made a stupid mistake, one
that I'm not very proud of, I apologized for it, and more than that I
hope to try and be a better person. There are some people who still
genuinely hate me, that is their right, they can express their feeling
if they wish, but I will not. I am not a martyr, not in any way.
> We are here because you have said some nasty
> things and violated the TOS. I feel just fine about myself today, thanks. If
> you are truly sorry for hurting people, then quit trying to spin this whole
> ordeal as if you are somehow the victim.
I'm not.
> Yes, I believe that some things have
> been said to you, about you, that ought not to have been said. Realize, though,
> that you have deeply hurt some folks by your comments about James Jessiman, and
> while it is true that you have been the receiver of some venom, what did you
> expect?
You make it sound like I want sympathy for it, I don't. I realize
that I hurt some people with my beliefs, the most I can do is keep
those beliefs to myself when I'm here and only act in a positive
manner. Is that going to make that hate go away? No. But that hate
does not affect me. A teacher of mine once said that the only person
who can truly make you mad is yourself. I will not allow myself to
get mad, that's what usually gets me into trouble in the first place.
I am actually supportive of anyone who wants to take a pop shot at me,
it won't hurt me and it'll help them feel better. I also don't think
anyone should try to tell them they're wrong for doing it because that
will make me look like a martyr as you said.
> I may not like some individuals who have passed on, but I'm not going
> to dessicate their graves.
I refuse to discuss my personal opinions or beliefs.
> Also, if you were offended by some people on RTL a
> while back, why didn't you tactfully address the problem, one-on-one, so to
> speak, by e-mail with the individuals that you feel wronged you?
You know that's probably what I should have done. I thought my way
would work, it's what I've been used to and I didn't bother to really
think before I spoke.
> That one is on
> you. I'm fully prepared to see what Matthew Moulton has to offer...I'm fully
> prepared to check out your models, and to value your contributions, so long as I
> have confidence that you are a person of good-will. You have damaged the trust
> that could have been put in you, and I doubt that it can ever be fully
> rectified. But I think that you can rebuild a measure of that trust.
I hope that I can too. And I will put every effort into it.
> But
> enough of this woe-is-me victim nonsense. It smacks of manipulation, and
> frankly causes me to view your apologies with some degree of suspicion. If you
> want us to value you, then start treating us with the same value that you hope
> to be accorded.
I will say it again then, I am NOT a victim, I am NOT a martyr. Some
people are quite mad at me and flaming me and I am not defending
myself against them, the reason why is that I feel they have a right
to do so and I feel that if I try intervening I am only going to
inflame the situation more than it is. I'm sure that anyone who is
attacking me will cool down over the next few days, they'll get it out
of their systems, and then we can all move on.
-Matthew
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| In lugnet.admin.general, Matthew Moulton writes: By acting as a virtual punching (...) Matthew: Please give up the martyr routine. We are here because you have said some nasty things and violated the TOS. I feel just fine about myself today, thanks. (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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