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In lugnet.adventurers, Jeff Johnston writes:
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> Michael Nelson wrote:
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> > Has anyone heard of the computer game Crimson Skies that is supposed to come
> > out this fall? It looks really cool, it is set in the 1930's and the
> > airplanes are neat. I'm gonna try and make some in Ldraw but there aren't
> > many pictures yet just these
> > http://www.microsoft.com/games/crimsonskies/gallery_planes.asp
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> If it's the same Crimson Skies that I've heard of, it's also a
> boardgame/wargame put
> out by FASA (makers of Battletech & Shadowrun). You might try looking around
> their website at:
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> http://www.fasa.com/CrimsonSkies/index.html
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> for more pictures.
Wow! I've seen the miniatures of the various planes and almost bought them
just on coolness factor. If there's a video game coming out I'll have to get
it (well, depending on gameplay. I'm kinda fussy).
Still, seeing some of these alternate-WWII planes in Lego would be really neat.
Maybe I'll have to give some of thema go as well...
There was a comic book a while back (2-3 years) called "Luftwaffe 1948" that
was a kind of alternate-history story where the Luftwaffe had planes so
advanced that WWII dragged on past it's normal timeframe. You might want to
seek out some of those books, too, if this kind of plane design really excites
you.
eric
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crimson, skies
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Michael Nelson wrote:
> Has anyone heard of the computer game Crimson Skies that is supposed to come
> out this fall? It looks really cool, it is set in the 1930's and the
> airplanes are neat. I'm gonna try and make some in Ldraw but there aren't
> many pictures yet just these
> http://www.microsoft.com/games/crimsonskies/gallery_planes.asp
If it's the same Crimson Skies that I've heard of, it's also a
boardgame/wargame put
out by FASA (makers of Battletech & Shadowrun). You might try looking around
their website at:
http://www.fasa.com/CrimsonSkies/index.html
for more pictures.
J
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crimson, skies
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Has anyone heard of the computer game Crimson Skies that is supposed to come
out this fall? It looks really cool, it is set in the 1930's and the
airplanes are neat. I'm gonna try and make some in Ldraw but there aren't
many pictures yet just these
http://www.microsoft.com/games/crimsonskies/gallery_planes.asp
Michael
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crimson, skies
(score: 3.414)
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James Powell wrote:
> > Granted, fighters don't generally mind what the pattern is as long as
> > they can get in and out, and historically they haven't been aboard sea
> > freighters because of the whole runway issue that may be irrelevant to small
> > spacecraft.
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> A fair number of ships were fitted with spitfires in WW2, something in the
> order of 200 flights were made. (all were take off, ditch flights...) It
> worked great against Condors (the search plane), in that the condor was _much_
> more expensive than a spitfire (they used Mk1's, because they were not fighting
> fighters...)
Hm...I wasn't aware that had actually been implemented. I knew the option had been
studied, but thought it was canned once P-51s and P-47s became available along with
"Jeep" carriers (CVEs) for convoy duty. It probably was, but I can see where a
FW-200 would have been rather surprised by the sudden appearance of a Spitfire out
at sea. It reminds me a bit of the short-lived airship-borne fighter system that
Germany and the US tested during and after WWI, respectively (and which has now
found "new life" in the role-playing/combat game from FASA called "Crimson Skies").
Ditching is harder in space, though. ;)
> > The"OooooOOoooO!!" (as in surprise or alarm) factor however also rests on the
> > fact that the overwhelming number of freighters *aren't* fitted out like this.
> > To seewhat happens when more than a few are, just look at the Q-ships and
> > German unrestricted submarine warfare in WWI.
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> Yep, it is the suprise...suprise is the event that happens in the mind of the
> commander. The whole Q ship/armed merchant ship is a interesting concept. The
> problem is that the ships are _not_ warships, and should not be expected to do
> all that well against a warship. The idea of a 2/5 3/5 fighter/cargo sounds
> far more like a military/pirate ship than a cargo carrier to me...
The power of surprise cannot be overestimated. It determined the course of WWII in
the Pacific, after all.
And they're not 'pirates,' they're 'privateers.' Please, 'pirate' is soooo
low-class. ;) (Actually there is an important distinction. Pirates usually
operate solely for personal gain and without concern for affiliation beyond
self-preservation; privateers operate both for personal gain but also under a
letter of marque or some other sanction by a state at war, and choose their targets
by their affiliation.)
best,
Lindsay
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crimson, skies
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Hey,
Wow, really sorry I missed the meeting (again) as I was doing absolutely
nothing on Sat.
The Boeing Museum event sounds like a great idea. I've been playing around
with some bi-wings and pumping my dad for info. Also, I just downloaded the
Crimson Skies demo and was thinking of making some MOC's inspired by the funky
redesigns there. (Gotta remember to borrow the RPG books)
The bulk buying sounds interesting as well, if it's feasable for the stores.
KB seems to be the biggest culprit around here. I was in the Alderwood Mall
store and they have some Wild West, Hydro sets and even a bunch of copies of
the Twisted Time Train sitting on high shelves. The stand-alone store in
Alderwood only had new stuff. Target and TRU were both busts.
The 11th looks good for me for my first meeting. Once it gets settled I'll
tell my wife and she'll remind me. It's the only sure way for me to make it.
:P
As for other intrests than Space, I got into this for Pirates, Evil Stevie's
Pirate game to be exact. I have a few ships and a base under construction.
Maybe if and when I make it to a meeting, we can talk about having an all day
pirate game. One warning right now, numbers of people shouldn't be a problem,
but even a small game needs more room than you might think. I have an
unfinished basement that might work, but being unfinished means sitting on
concrete.
I'm also getting more into the Adventurers themes as it ties into my dream of
portraying my Wednesday night TORG game in Lego. The first Team's minifigs are
almost done.
However, I also like Space as it's the easiest for me to go freeform in. As
shown in my Naboo fighter alternate model.
http://www.geocities.com/catjuggling95/naboo.html
Catch y'all later,
The Mad Pirate Sean
In lugnet.announce, Mark Sandlin writes:
> Hi everyone,
>
> We had our second SEALUG meeting at Gary Gerdes' home yesterday.
>
> Members present:
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> Gary & Ian Gerdes
> Wayne Hussey & Terri Walter
> Jonathan McKay
> Joel Parker
> Mark Rideout
> Mark Sandlin
>
> Especially notable is that Jonathan's mom drove him all the way from
> Spokane for the meeting. Bravo!
>
> --Topics of Discussion--
>
> -Events-
> Members present felt that it would be a lot of fun, as well as good
> publicity for SEALUG, to hold an event where we could share our
> creations with the public, and even hold a building contest.
>
> After discussing malls, schools, and museums, we decided we would
> shoot for the Boeing Museum of Flight, and have a flight-themed event. A
> building contest would be held, celebrating the past, present, and future
> of flight. I also propose a "Fantasy of Flight" category, for people to create
> fantastic flying machines from their imagination.
>
> Since I work at Boeing, I can call the museum to see if this is even
> possible. If the museum finds this interesting, I can then approach the
> Boeing News, which distributes their newspaper throughout the entire
> company. That's a lot of publicity!
>
> We're shooting for a March/Spring Break timeframe. We'll narrow down
> the date as we get things ironed out.
>
> -Fairs-
> We discussed approaching local Fairs and offering to judge when they
> hold LEGO building contests. How many of you have been to these
> contests, where first prize goes to a set built right from the LEGO
> instructions? We feel this is unfair to those who use skill, creativity, and
> originality in their constructions. We feel that we can help them judge,
> since we as FOLs are more aware of the difficulties of building, as well
> as the creative use of parts.
>
> -Group Buying-
> Mark Rideout mentioned that he had been at a KayBee at Redmond
> Town Center. He said they had about 10 of the 6199 Hydro Crystallation
> Station, and he suggested that in the future, if enough of us were
> interested, he could approach the store manager and offer to take all the
> discontinued sets off their hands if they could offer us the sets at a
> discount
>
> This sounded like an interesting idea to those of us present, and we
> want to get some discussion going about this. I propose the following
> steps:
>
> 1: If you find several discontinued sets, post to SEALUG@egroups.com
> and see if folks are interested.
>
> 2. If enough people are interested, return to the store and speak with the
> manager about buying the discontinued sets at a discount.
>
> Many store managers would be interested in clearing up the store space,
> and offering a further discount to get rid of some old sets would be
> appealing to them. In any case, it might be a good way for us to get some
> older sets at a great price.
>
> -Trading/Selling-
> We feel that SEALUG can be an excellent way for those of us in the area
> to trade parts, or even buy parts from each other, without all the hassle of
> mailing and paying for shipping.
>
> -Next Meeting-
> I proposed November 4th as the date for our next meeting (just because I
> was sticking to the first weekend of the month), but upon checking the
> calendar, I realized that the Lego RCX challenge is that day. I think we
> should all go check it out and show our support for LEGO events in the
> area.
>
> Since the 4th is full, how about the 11th? Mark Rideout offered to have the
> meeting at his place in Snoqualmie, which is about a half hour east of
> Seattle on I-90. Please let us know if this will not work for you. Our goal is
> to hold the meeting where we can maximize attendance.
>
> We also need more folks to show up who are interested in Themes other
> than Space. Sure, I like Space, and if you look at the photos I posted to
> brickshelf, everyone else present likes Space too! We need to see some
> creations from folks who aren't Space-heads! Our goal is not to make
> SEALUG a Space-only club, we want to make this fun for everyone!
>
> -T-Shirts-
> We got T-shirts! We got Sweatshirts! We got Mugs! We got Mousepads!
>
> Get yours here!
>
> http://www.cafepress.com/sealug/
>
> I have not marked up the prices from their base amounts, as this is a
> non-profit item.
>
> (Thanks to Todd Lehman for bringing my attention to this website. You
> got a referral, Todd!)
>
> And finally, here are some pictures from the meeting:
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=1540
>
> See you in November,
>
> ~Mark
> --
> Mark's Lego Creations
> http://www.nwlink.com/~sandlin/lego
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