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Re: Hogwarts Express train - collaboration with James Mathis
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Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:43:35 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
   Hi all,

A couple of weeks ago James contacted me and asked if I’d be interested in working on a preliminary design of a Hogwarts engine he had made. It was good timing since I was getting rather bored with no new projects so I started.


Nice effort, Tim and James. This is especially interesting to me (and Ross) because we (in the sense that I acquire the needed bricks and he assembles them;-) have studied the Hogwarts Express at length, from finding pics and schematics online to freeze-framing our HP DVDs to ascertain info about the train.

I only worked from two pics of the Hornby set and one picture of the real loco in its standard livery. I’m really, really bad at finding prototype pictures so your advice is very valuable.

   Ross’ first effort I brought to Brickfest PDX but I never really made an announcement about it because it was such a WIP:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=994757 http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/J-2/8wide/RossFolder/thumb/0099hogwartsexpressross.jpg_thumb.jpg

Very nice design. I look forward to seeing it complete.

   He has since modified it, but we are now working on a total revision of it.... in dark red Hmmm. And that is with coaches. Brick acquisition has been slow, but results will be forthcoming, so stay tuned:-)

Better your money than mine ;)

   Here are some thoughts about yours based on what I have learned researching ours:

The roof definitely needs to be black. The coaches’ roofs, however, should be dark gray. The entire train, of course, should be dark red. Since you have created this baby virually, why not go all out and create it in dark red? :-d (it might even help your lighting problems a bit)

Thanks for that colour advice. I will leave it in standard red as I like to be able to afford any designs I make but I will certainly change the roof colours (and rerender with the correct bleys).

   As was mentioned elsewhere, the tender should only have 3 axles. We explored the window treatment idea you have utilized and decided that it looked too bulky and proportionally didn’t work well. So we decided that that treatment should be handled with decals.

Accuracy over lego-acy. As you may have noticed I’ve never been a stickler for scale (at all). I am looking forward to seeing your design. It’s something I love about Lego that you can ramp up the accuracy as much or as little as you like. I prefer the slightly toylike look but am very impressed by people who build really accurate models (except you eight-widers, build smaller :P).

   You have decided to use two yellow stripes to show the pinstriping-- we also looked at this and decided that the plate is WAY too thick to simulate the delicate pinstriping of the coaches. At best one could use the hinge brick striping technique, but it would only be able to be used for the bottom stripe (which actually is a double stripe), so that’s not a perfect solution, either. What we have finally decided to do is to use a plate for the bottom striping and use a dark red decal stripe through the middle of that yellow plate to simulate the double striping. The top stripe will be a thin yellow decal stripe. In any event, however, I think that having NO stripes is better than using 2 yellow plate stripes-- they are too dominate and change the entire color scheme of the train IMO.

You had me worried there that I’d gone for the double. You could use a stack of flags to get the stripes (assuming they come in dark red) as they are half plate thick. The initial window design James sent me used flags between the lower and upper half but I replaced it by a tile in order to get internal space.

   One of these days I will be finishing up my rip-offs of the Hogwarts Express logo, so perhaps that can be placed where people could use it either virtually or as a decal. I have no idea how that is done virtually, but I could provide it in any form necessary for someone who could run with the idea. JOHN


If you send my a copy of the decals I can try to run them through my image to dat converter for virtual use. Hopefully they will be simple enough to work.

Thanks for all your comments and advice.

Tim



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(...) Nice effort, Tim and James. This is especially interesting to me (and Ross) because we (in the sense that I acquire the needed bricks and he assembles them;-) have studied the Hogwarts Express at length, from finding pics and schematics online (...) (19 years ago, 21-Feb-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)

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