 | | Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —John Neal
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| | | Can "new trains" ever be a bad thing? Doubtful, but here are some observations based on the pic below that explore this question: (URL) It appears that the battery motor has metal flanges like the 9 volt motor. Probably good; will last longer than (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | --SOMEWHAY SNIPPED THROUGHOUT-- (...) Maybe it is the old motor, or a slightly modified version. In some ways it wouldn't surprise me if they reused the existing manufacturing line. (...) This is what puts me off. At least with eight wide you can (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —John Barnes
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| | | | | | | (...) I am hoping it will be a modified version of the 9v motor. If it is the same motor, then if it runs onto metal track, it's battery will find itself powering the track out through the wheels instead of getting power in through them. (The (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | (...) I'm not really hoping, but it would be awesome if they modified the existing motor to allow it to be powered by either battery or off the rails. The very best (IMO) would be like the trainmodders have done -- the power picked up from the rails (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Mike Petrucelli
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| | | | | | | | (...) The current 9v motor can be powered by rails or a battery box. Just plug a battery box where the light brick would normally connect and turn it on. The only thing is it will go backwards compared to normal power by the wheels. However a (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | (...) Eureka, Mike! I think you have nailed it! The spy pics show metal wheels, suggesting that they are indeed still utilizing the 9 volt train motor. That side thingie I was concerned about now appears to be the sensor that gets the signal from (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Jason J. Railton
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| | | | | | | | (...) I'd just assumed that most train-heads knew that already. John, you need to open up and talk to the six-wide builders more... ;-) But what does happen if you connect a 9V battery box to a train motor is that you get not so much a (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Battery drive / new trains —Jonathan Reynolds
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Ah...another reference to my enthusiastic pioneering approach by Jason. The loco in question is a replica of a real loco called a Motor Luggage Van made as a single unit for the Southern Region (ex British Rail). As the name suggests, it was a (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Battery drive / new trains —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Similar to our trams, which all carry emergency battery power for if it stops at an isolated section. (...) It seems (URL) the wheels are plastic>, so maybe not total havoc. ROSCO (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Battery drive / new trains —Jonathan Reynolds
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Yep, a totally new train motor too. So now I need even more convincing that Lego will continue with the traditional 9v track-powered range. Jon (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | (...) Eeoow. That's akin to kissing one's sister:-p (...) Well, I was imagining a sort of regulator as a part of the battery pack that a remote control could simply activate. A long time ago my son Ross rigged up an old 12 volt motor that ran off of (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Stefan Garcia
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| | | | | | | (...) It would look to be the curved elements used on the Millenium Falcon escape pod, judging from the ends. Sadly, this means they are nigh useless for anyone making 8-wides, but for 6-wides, they should prove quite nice, and lighter than all (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Jeramy Spurgeon
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| | | | | | | | (...) No need to wait or hope for an 8-wide curved roof element. Take a look at the new airliners: (URL) Particularly this piece: (URL) Now to just hope they produce it in black, dark bley, and light bley. -Jeramy (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Marc Nelson Jr.
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| | | | | | | (...) I don't buy this argument. The Super Chief proved that brick-built designs can be both aesthetically pleasing and popular. And how could a brick-built design be any more expensive than that Playmobil wanna-be? 20-30 small bricks made from (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | | | | (...) I'll take your "I don't buy this argument" and raise it. We know that the Super Chief proved popular amongst AFOLs, but not neccesarily amonst the population at large. (...) Fortunately we don't need to think about this one, the prices are (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Marc Nelson Jr.
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| | | | | | | | (...) Yeah, but the Super Chief had 3x more pieces than the 10157. Per piece, the Super Chief comes in at 9.17 cents per piece, while the High Speed Locomotive comes in at 17.73. Beyond the savings in not designing a new mold for every new engine, (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | | | | --SNIP-- (...) Which I would think helps my argument, not yours. (...) Which might represent a higher profit margin for Lego. Either way I doubt your typical kid (or their parents) looks at the price per piece. (...) Well the prodction doesn't quite (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Marc Nelson Jr.
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| | | | | | | | (...) Only if the Super Chief was three times as expensive, which it wasn't. Real bricks mean more value for the dollar than molded super-pieces. (...) I have no idea what effect price per piece means for TLC's bottom line. They seem to go to either (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Jason J. Railton
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| | | | | | | | (...) The whole point of this exercise is to bring down the entry point of a starting train set. The Super Chief cost more than the My-Own-Train, so it doesn't help one bit. The price-per-piece is irrelevant - if that was the only engine available (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Jonathan Reynolds
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| | | | | | | | | In lugnet.trains, Jason J. Railton wrote: (snip) (...) This is exactly how I feel about the new trains. Whilst I welcome the realistic Euro designs and the entry-level pitching, the assurance that 'metal track will continue to be available' is not (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | (...) I agree with you here, Jason. When considering the new battery system, we are, in theory, talking about a line that will provide easier access to LEGO trains for the GP. There is something non-threatening about devices which only require just (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Mike Walsh
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| | | | | | | | "John" <John@TCLTC.org> wrote in message news:IsqHwF.1CFA@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) In the US, a battery operated toy can be labeled for a much younger age than one which plugs into an AC outlet. I believe the minimum age for (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Jonathan Wilson
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| | | | | | (...) The nose is not really that different to that on sets like the Metroliner, 4511 passenger train and 4561 passenger train. The main difference appears to be that instead of having a lower nose piece and an upper nose piece/windscreen, its now a (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Rob Hendrix
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| | | | | "John" <John@TCLTC.org> wrote in message news:IsoCFq.1t2F@lugnet.com... (...) That looks like an optical illusion to me. It appears the light is coming from a nx4 brick between the 2 headlight bricks and under the jumper plate. -Rob (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) Hey, you're correct, Rob. I thought it was just fancy Photoshopping, but the lights do seem to appear from a green one of (URL) these> JOHN (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Jonathan Lopes
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| | | | | (...) I share the same POV. I just wish I got into trains a lot earlier and had more train elements at this point. (...) Same here, unfortunately. I plan on getting more track now as well. What I am wondering is if one of the trains is RC and the (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) Are you playing at the Enormodome? (...) "Tarp":-) Jonathan, you truly are a kindred spirit! I just "introduced" my kids to Tap this Christmas break. Top Ten greatest film without a doubt. JOHN (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Marc Nelson Jr.
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| | | | | (...) The white one looks like the train version of the (URL) new airliners> - i.e. like a Playmobil set. It wouldn't bother me (as much) if these were 4+/Jack Stone sets. But the airliner has almost the same age recommendation (5-12) as something (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Christopher Masi
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| | | | (...) Having metal wheels has its ups and downs. One down is that you won't be able to run it on a 9v line independent of the 9v train. We probably won't be able to run to IR controled trains independently of each other (one remote will likely (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Niels Karsdorp
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| | | | (...) The motors are new, the wheels are plastic. Thus the IR train can run independently on 9V track among 9V trains. (...) The roof of the high speed train seems to be this part:¬ (URL)¬ This can be seen at the middle car on the poster. (...) It (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains —Tony Hafner
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| | | | (...) I'm hoping these aren't using the same signal encoding as the Manas- they've already reused those on some IR cars as well. I'd really like to be able to control Mana-powered devices on a layout independently from the trains. And as long as the (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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