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Re: Stupid question about modern passenger service in U.S.
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Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:56:57 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, James Wilson wrote:
I figured I wouldn't get flamed too badly on the "friendliest place on the
Internet" -- what is the status of individual railroads' passenger service in
the U.S.??  I was under the impression that Amtrak provided (almost?) all
inter-city passenger service, until the other night when I had to stop for a
Kansas City Southern passenger consist at a grade crossing.

It may have been a shipper inspection train, or an excursion, those are both not
"scheduled revenue intercity" service and thus not subject to the provisions of
the Amtrak legislation.

Do individual railroads still provide passenger service?

As Frank said, no, not intercity.

The deal made with the government, at the time of the National Rail Passenger
Corporation (subsequently Amtrak) creation, by the railroads was that in
exchange for being relieved of their obligation to provide passenger service
(and thus relieved of the obligatoin of having to petition the ICC, line by
line, city by city, to stop service, a laborious and expensive process), they
gave up the right to run scheduled revenue intercity passenger service on their
lines.

They were not prohibited from contracting with regional commuter authorities (or
running independent private commmuter service) but that's not intercity.

Essentially all railroads took Amtrak up on the deal at the inception of Amtrak.
Notable Class 1 exceptions were Southern and D&RGW... (perhaps other smaller
lines, I forget) both subsequently did "join" Amtrak but it may have been due to
merger, I forget.

Hope that hleps

Thanks for help with a non-Lego, but still Train-related, question.

Good question. I just finesse it and assume we're in an alternate reality where
I can run whatever livery I want.



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  Re: Stupid question about modern passenger service in U.S.
 
Thanks, Larry, and everyone else. I'm not sure what I saw - several matching passenger cars with an F-class locomotive in the same livery. Seems like I used to occasionaly see a UP or SP passenger train when I lived in Austin, too. Probably private (...) (19 years ago, 29-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains)
  Re: Stupid question about modern passenger service in U.S.
 
FYI there is also a "ski train" running from Denver into the Rockies that is painted the D&RGW colors. Of course that falls into the excursion catagory, but must be a site to see! (URL) (19 years ago, 29-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains)

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I figured I wouldn't get flamed too badly on the "friendliest place on the Internet" -- what is the status of individual railroads' passenger service in the U.S.?? I was under the impression that Amtrak provided (almost?) all inter-city passenger (...) (19 years ago, 29-Mar-05, to lugnet.trains)

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