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Re: 3 new virtual train MOCs: Turboliner, le Shuttle, Psi-concept
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lugnet.trains
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Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:13:19 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Reinhard “Ben” Beneke wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, James Mathis wrote:
That one is great, James!
I like the nose design, the built logo of Amtrak and the colour sceeme. Maybe
the “cockpit” could be done with some more details by any kind of SNOT
technique?
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Yes, I would like to have some vertically oriented plates to frame the “cockpit”
windows. Too much wrap-around glass in this current v1 form.
le Shuttle version 3:
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Without too much critism,
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I definitely appreciate the criticism! Go!
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but that engine looks quite simple (except from nice and rare colours).
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Yes, the engine is BORING! I’ve tried to SNOT-it-Up for version 3 with a try at
using some roofing slopes. What do you think? I think it is a bit too long and
sharp near the headlights.
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But I like the high two floor waggons and their
sloped face side.
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Thanks. It’s a tight fit for the autos into the waggons. I had to really cut
the top off the autos for the upper deck. Put a minifigure into those upper
deck autos and I think they will look like they are at the LEGOLAND themepark
“Driving School”!
I have made a single-level
waggon to carry truck (lorry):
Still trying to figure out a good SNOT technique to be rid of the gap in front
of the cab’s front fender.
I think this waggon to carry lorries may be weak in the side-walls with all the
thin-wall panels and no cross-bracing until the roof is attached. I think it
might emplode if a hand squeezes it hard!
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And now - hmmm....
To be honest: I do not like the huge glass part and that dominates the whole
design.
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I think that I have read you saying that you do not like the modern “sleek”
passenger trains, in general: the shape is too simple and lacks detail. :-)
These trains are like jet airplanes with no wings! Just a cylinder on wheels.
(I am wondering if Ben has a secret modern train hidden in his dark closet, for
he only shows us beautiful “old-fashion” steam trains. ;-)
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In my eyes this does not look like a train.
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Maybe this Psi train is a new “Tube” for the London Underground system?
It is a slug that rides inside a tube.
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But still: - as a concept
is does work - it shows this part does not work for a train front.... (as
long as someone might prove it can work though).
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:-) With enough paint to this windscreen element-- as in its only two official
set uses in Mars and Star Wars-- perhaps its use on a train would not be so
offensive?
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Please allow just one little question out of curiosity:
Is the Sikorsky you personal favorite among this three trains as well?
And
the Psi train the one you are not really convinced about yourself?
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I like the Psi for its simplicity and straight-forward design. It is simple and
a low height. I imagine that the Psi might be able to navigate a real train
track circuit at top speed controller setting. ??
But, perhaps Psi shows much about LEGO(R) modelling in general:
1) How unoriginal and “empty” a train design can become if it is only from my
own imagination. But, I did intend this Psi train to be dominated and flow from
the start of this unique windscreen.
2) When we AFOLs view any LEGO(R) model of a real-life existing train, car,
truck, airplane, etc, we can superimpose our memory vision of the real-thing
over the top of the LEGO(R) model. However good and finely detailed is the LEGO
model, memory vision serves to fill-in-the-blanks of details that the LEGO(R)
model lacks. We recognize certain key and critical design elements in the LEGO
model that point us to the real-life version and compare the two images in our
“minds-eye”.
I am set to wonder how well an original “imaginary” LEGO model creation would
translate into a real-life metal version of the LEGO model-- at least in 4, 6,
7, or 8-wide. How large does a LEGO model need to be to reach the critical
resolution required for a good translation into a real-life model?
I like to visit the Mecha and particularly Space MOC creations to see the
unbounded design forms on exhibit. Boy, talk about SNOT techniques! Wheh!
I like the real-life Sikorsky for its unusual design:
- passive pendulum swing
- single-axle wheels
- unique high-top cockpit
- age: it is over 30 years old
I don’t like my Sikorsky model version because I don’t have a working
single-axle and pendulum mechanism. And, as you mentioned, the cockpit needs
framing around the windows.
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Or is it just my point of view, when I do not like this model so much?
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I don’t know. I think none of these 3 new models are my favourite. I choose
not to choose.
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Among your
other great designs this one is a “Griff ins Klo” (=grip into the toilet?) as
we would say in German...
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Ha! The Psi could be viewed as a certain medicine pill: “Hard to swallow” OR
“Makes you *go*” ;-)
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Leg Godt!
Ben
(who has already done some really ugly models himself....)
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...who is not brave to show us? ;-)
Thanks for the great response and critique!
later,
James Mathis
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