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Re: This is odd...
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lugnet.trains
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Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:10:04 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, John Neal writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Harvey Henkelman writes:
> > In all fairness. the LEGO® train motor does not have that much inherent
> > tractive effort to begin with...hence the addition of rubber traction tires
> > on the wheels. The train motor was designed to pull only their assigned
> > train cars within a set (i.e. 4565, 4561 etc.) and the original target for
> > LEGO® trains (young children) usually play with trains but a short time
> > before it's back in the toy closet anyway. LEGO® (back in the 1960's and
> > 1970's) did not anticipate adults taking on the hobby and building an
> > internet-connected network where ideas are shared freely.
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> Who did? ;-)
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> > Prognosis: That LEGO® trains and LEGO® in general are really just
> > toys...albeit VERY ENJOYABLE.
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> > As for your steam engines? Only so much weight can be added to a 9V motor
> > block before it becomes so heavy that it must fight to pull it's own weight
> > let alone any trailing load. This is why I build exculsively in 6 wide and
> > my locomotives are built as lightweight as possible (often the outer shells
> > only with a minifig stuck inside)
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> One thing you didn't suggest was that maybe the one motor is worn out. Stefan,
> did you pull a switch and see if the results were the same?
That only adds to my confusion. The Porter has the old motor and my
Greenbrier has the brand new (3 days old) motor. I did take out a battery
box which really wasn't needed, and it's a bit better, but I can't make the
engine much lighter.
> > The Santa Fe Super Chief is more an adult-orientated model, but a 9V motor
> > is hard pressed to pull a train of that weight and length. LEGO®, realizing
> > that adults ARE the majority of 9V train buyers...rushed the new light gray
> > wheel blocks 'through a third party'-into production resulting in inferior
> > quality wheelsets.
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> Harvey, this flat out is NOT true. AFOLs comprise only a fraction of TLC's
> market, train or otherwise (but I'd bet up to 10%). This has been asserted
> time and again by Brad Justus himself.
Yeah, Jake told us all that the changes were made to the wheelset without
TLC's knowledge
> > And now to give praise to LEGO Direct® for doing an outstanding job reviving
> > the true building bricks....pay no attention to that Bionicle and Galidor
> > behind the curtain!
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> Yes, LD is doing a fantastic job! <cough, dark red in bulk>
Don't forget Dk. Blue. :^)
> -John
-Stefan-
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| (...) Okay, then your problem is drag. Weight isn't so much a problem if there isn't a lot of friction. I just looked at your engine again and I can see your problem, because it is one that my son Ross experienced when he built his Pacific: (URL) (...) (22 years ago, 25-Oct-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| (...) LOL!! I'm sure we could ALL come up with colors that we'd like to see have a better selection of bulk bricks... Me? I'm waiting for the dark green, so I can build this: (URL) I'm *definitely* dreaming!!) <sigh> You know, .trains is a pretty (...) (22 years ago, 25-Oct-02, to lugnet.trains)
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| (...) Who did? ;-) (...) One thing you didn't suggest was that maybe the one motor is worn out. Stefan, did you pull a switch and see if the results were the same? (...) Harvey, this flat out is NOT true. AFOLs comprise only a fraction of TLC's (...) (22 years ago, 25-Oct-02, to lugnet.trains)
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