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Subject: 
Check my math? 8448 gearbox ratios
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Date: 
Tue, 14 Dec 1999 20:54:04 GMT
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While disassembling my 8448 last night, I decided to
work out the gear ratios from the engine output to
the drive axle.  I came up with the following (many
apologies if this has been discussed here before).  This
is ascii art, so if you're on the web interface, click
on "view raw message" to see a more sensible diagram.

Top level:                     Bottom level:

            ||
[-A1-----][-A2-]                    ||        ||
    ||  [-B1-----][-B2-]            ||        ||
    ||      ||      ||              ||        ||
    ||      ||      ||              ||        ||
[-C1---][-C3---][-C5---]        [-D1---]     ||
    ||      ||      ||              ||        ||
    ||      ||      ||              ||        ||
    ||      ||      ||              ||        ||
    ||      ||      ||              ||        ||
    ||   [-C2---][-C4---]           ||     [-E1---]
[-CR---]   ||      ||         [-D2-------][-E2---]
    ||      ||      ||              ||        ||
    ||      ||      ||              ||        ||

    A       IN      B              D=OUT      E

Gear sizes:                    Layer connections:

   A1 = 20T  B1 = 20T             D1 = -C1
   A2 = 12T  B2 = 12T             D2 = -2/3 CR
   Cx = 16T                       E1 = -C4
   D1 = 16T  E1 = 16T
   D2 = 24T  E2 = 16T

All Cx's spin freely on their axles; only one may be
engaged onto A, IN, or B.

The math:

1st gear: C1 = A = -3/5 IN  4th gear: C4 = B = -5/3 IN
          C3 = -C1                    E2 = E1 = -C4
          D1 = -C3                    D2 = -2/3 E2
          OUT = -3/5 IN               OUT = -(2/3)(5/3) IN
                                      OUT = -10/9 IN
2nd gear: C2 = IN
          C4 = -C2          5th gear: C5 = B = -5/3 IN
          E2 = E1 = -C4               C3 = -C5
          D2 = -2/3 E2                D1 = -C3
          OUT = -2/3 IN               OUT = -5/3 IN

3rd gear: C3 = IN           Reverse:  CR = A = -3/5 IN
          OUT = D1 = -C3              D2 = -2/3 CR
          OUT = -IN                   OUT = 2/5 IN

Gearbox ratios (to nearest 0.001):

              vs. IN       vs. 1st

    1st     = -0.6         1.0
    2nd     = -0.667       1.111
    3rd     = -1.0         1.667
    4th     = -1.111       1.852
    5th     = -1.667       2.778
    Reverse =  0.4        -0.667

The jump from 4th to 5th seems a little steep to
me, but I don't immediately see how it could be
improved.  I also like how reverse is in fact
slower than first.

-Tim



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  Re: Check my math? 8448 gearbox ratios
 
Tim, I also worked out the gearbox ratios after I built my 8448 and got the same results. I must admit your diagrams are a lot neater than mine! Actually, I did my analysis all the way to the rear axle, which turns 1.5 times slower than the drive (...) (25 years ago, 27-Dec-99, to lugnet.technic)

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