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Subject: 
Re: Electrical Data Link between 2 RCXs
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Date: 
Tue, 3 Apr 2001 23:18:50 GMT
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However, there is a strange effect:

When I start the program, the first message that is sent is corrupted, i.e.
wrong pulses are created. E.g., if I send a "0" (binary 0000), I measured the
following duration for the pulses (value of "very fast timer variables"):

start:  2500 - 3600
bit 3:  94
bit 2:  4
bit 1:  0
bit 0:  1

So a value of  "12" was received. This effect always happens.
After this, everything is fine. It seems that the RCX needs some time to adjust
his output procedures ... (Anyone got an explanation for this ?)

Of course, I can send a dummy, throw it away in the receiver and after this the
communication will work.

For those who are interested in the whole subject, here the programs for cut
and paste:

TRANSMITTER:

int num = 0;

task main ()
{
CreateDatalog (100);
SetUserDisplay (num, 0);
Float (OUT_B);    // default condition (low)

while (true)
{
   num = 0;
   repeat (16)
   {
     Wait (20);
     PlayTone(2000, 5);
     send ();
     num ++;
   }
}
}

sub send ()
{
#define _one   3
#define _zero  1

int _bit3 = _zero;
int _bit2 = _zero;
int _bit1 = _zero;
int _bit0 = _zero;

if ((num & 0x08) == 0x08) _bit3 = _one;
if ((num & 0x04) == 0x04) _bit2 = _one;
if ((num & 0x02) == 0x02) _bit1 = _one;
if ((num & 0x01) == 0x01) _bit0 = _one;

Off   (OUT_B); Wait  (_one);   // Startbit (high)
Float (OUT_B); Wait  (_bit3);  // Bit 3    (low)
Off   (OUT_B); Wait  (_bit2);  // Bit 2    (high)
Float (OUT_B); Wait  (_bit1);  // Bit 1    (low)
Off   (OUT_B); Wait  (_bit0);  // Bit 0    (high)
Float (OUT_B);                 // default  (low)
}


RECEIVER:

#define _threshold 3

int _bit3;
int _bit2;
int _bit1;
int _bit0;
int _start;

int num;
int display = 0;

task main ()
{
SetSensor (SENSOR_1, SENSOR_TOUCH);
SetUserDisplay (display, 0);
CreateDatalog (1000);
ClearSensor (SENSOR_1);

while (true)
{
   num = 0;
   _bit3 = 0;
   _bit2 = 0;
   _bit1 = 0;
   _bit0 = 0;
   _start = 0;

   until (SENSOR_1 == 1);            // wait for Startbit
   until (SENSOR_1 == 0) _start ++;  // pulse length of Startbit
   until (SENSOR_1 == 1) _bit3 ++;   // pulse length of bit 3
   until (SENSOR_1 == 0) _bit2 ++;   // pulse length of bit 2
   until (SENSOR_1 == 1) _bit1 ++;   // pulse length of bit 1
   until (SENSOR_1 == 0) _bit0 ++;   // pulse length of bit 0

   if (_bit3 >= _threshold) num = num + 8;
   if (_bit2 >= _threshold) num = num + 4;
   if (_bit1 >= _threshold) num = num + 2;
   if (_bit0 >= _threshold) num = num + 1;
   PlayTone(4000, 5);
   display = num;
}
}

Best regards
Bernd Frassek

My guess is that SENSOR_1 in your receiving RCX is getting a 1 when your
program starts.  I imagine that OFF is the default state for OUT_B in your
transmitter RCX, and that the receiver is seeing this before OUT_B is
switched to FLOAT.  This is pretty easy to correct by putting an until
(SENSOR_1 == 0) before the while loop in your receiver program.



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  Re: Electrical Data Link between 2 RCXs
 
It's me again with some improvements for an "Electrical Data Link between 2 RCX". In the current version I changed the default condition of the link to "high" (in the transmitter: OFF(OUT_B)) so that the receiver has a 1 at its sensor input. So, you (...) (24 years ago, 17-Apr-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)

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  Re: Electrical Data Link between 2 RCXs
 
(...) Hi Dean, meanwhile I followed your suggestions and implemented a scheme that uses a pulse scheme like this: ______ ______ ______ __ ______ ______ ___...___ Start Bit3 Bit2 Bit1 Bit0 A bit value of 1 results in a long pulse, a bit value of 0 in (...) (24 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)

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