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Re: Re[2]: phone cord length
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lugnet.robotics.handyboard
Date: 
Fri, 7 Mar 1997 05:39:12 GMT
Original-From: 
Fred G. Martin <fredm@%NoMoreSpam%media.mit.edu>
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thx for correcting my wording.  e.g., instead of saying "half twist" i
should say "straight through".  anyhow, we agree on the definition of
what is a phone cable and what is not a phone cable, we just have a
different way of illustrating it.

the point stands:  only phone cable (cross-over as alan calls them)
must be used with Handy Board.

-fred


In your message you said:
> Sorry Fred, but I must respectfully disagree.....
> 
> Fred G. Martin wrote:
> (snip)
> > 
> > BTW, while we're on the topic of serial and phone cords, please be
> > VERY CAREFUL when swapping phone cords.  The Handy Board requires a
> > telephone-style cord.  Many of us have network-style RJ11 cords lying
> > around our offices, which have a half twist in their wiring.
> 
> Actually it is phone cords which are the crossover type.  Use of a patch-
> cord tester confirms this.  I am not familiar with any RJ11 network cables,
> but I know that the standard line cord for a phone is a crossover cable.
> > 
> > Network-style RJ11 cables CANNOT, SHOULD NOT, and BETTER NOT be used
> > with Handy Boards.
> 
> This is still true, since the effect of using the wrong one is the same.
> > 
> > If you use a network style cable, you invert the power and ground
> > connections, which blows up the 47 ohm charge resistor on your serial
> > interface board, along with potential for greater damage.
> > 
> > Here is how you tell if you have a telephone-style or network-style
> > RJ11 cable. (snip)
> 
> You actually need to put the RJ11 plugs side by side, so they are oriented
> the same way, to see whether they are straight through or crossover.  This
> way you see wire color for pin 1 on each end and pin 2, pin 3, etc.
> 
>                  +-----------+        \
> -----------------|black  ====|  Pin 1  \
>                  |red    ====|  Pin 2   \
>                  |green  ====|  Pin 3    \
> -----------------|yellow ====|  Pin 4     \
>                  +-----------+             \
>                                             ----- straight-through cable
>                  +-----------+             /
> -----------------|black  ====|  Pin 1     /
>                  |red    ====|  Pin 2    /
>                  |green  ====|  Pin 3   /
> -----------------|yellow ====|  Pin 4  /
>                  +-----------+        /
> 
> 
>                  +-----------+        \
> -----------------|black  ====|  Pin 1  \
>                  |red    ====|  Pin 2   \
>                  |green  ====|  Pin 3    \
> -----------------|yellow ====|  Pin 4     \
>                  +-----------+             \
>                                             ----- cross-over (phone) cable
>                  +-----------+             /
> -----------------|yellow ====|  Pin 1     /
>                  |green  ====|  Pin 2    /
>                  |red    ====|  Pin 3   /
> -----------------|black  ====|  Pin 4  /
>                  +-----------+        /
> 
> Best regards,
> Alan
> 



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  Re: Re[2]: phone cord length
 
Sorry Fred, but I must respectfully disagree..... Fred G. Martin wrote: (snip) (...) Actually it is phone cords which are the crossover type. Use of a patch- cord tester confirms this. I am not familiar with any RJ11 network cables, but I know that (...) (30 years ago, 7-Mar-97, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)

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