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Re: First Lego League Software (fwd)
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Date: 
Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:16:49 GMT
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Barbara Nostrand <NOSTRAND@BRADLEY.EDUnomorespam>
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Hi again.

[ If they knew nothing about robots, hardware, software, or programing
then I'd pick something a lot more supportive of absolute beginners. A
more ideal system would be a small laptop with a umbilical or else a
more powerful PCMCIA style computer so they could work in a very high
level environment and not get bogged. Idealy the first thing a new
robot builder should do is spend six months learning electronics and
another six months learning mechanics. Then spend six months learning
programming. I'd also 'payload' or 'modularize' the project. Things
like motor, battery, or sensor assemblies would be pre-assembled. Only
then would I turn them loose on anything more complicated than a
bounce-and-twirl robot. At no point should they touch a soldering iron. ]

1) As I wrote, the LEGO system provideds a big advantage in having all
   of the parts set up so that they can be plugged together relatively
   painlessly. (This means no hacking the servos and no hacking IR
   sensors both of which are required operations in assembling at least
   one of the rug warrior kits.)

2) A lot of the other robotic kits have the decided disadvantage of
   lack of flexibility in their design. Many of the rug rat robots
   and their kin basically do not do anything more than one of the
   early building projects in Mindstorms. Walker kits can walk, but
   do not do anything else. Some of the robotic arm kits are not even
   particularly good arms. (And some of the dedicated kits are a bit
   fragile as well.)

3) As for my students, they are Senior C/S majors. Consequently, they
   have had a couple of years of programming training at this point.
   They are also supposed to know elementary digital circuits.

4) I am not silly enough to expect all of their projects to succeed.
   I have seen projects fail in industry.

5) One of my objectives is to get them away from "a very high level
   environment". One problem that a lot of CS students have is an
   inability to wean themselves off of doing everything in Boreland C++

As for success of LEGO robots in Robotic competitions. LEGO
robots have successfully competed at the Trinity College Firefighting
Robot Competition where about 1/2 of the robots (regardless of
construction) fail to complete the course.

Barbara Nostrand

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