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Re: AFOL/Mindstorms stagnation (Was Re: FLL not allowing NQC)
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Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:56:45 GMT
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In lugnet.robotics, Steve Baker <sjbaker1@airmail.net> wrote:
Mr S wrote:
In lugnet.robotics, Dick Swan wrote:

Mindstorms for the AFOL and consumer market appears
totally stagnant.

I am curious. I don't know about other AFOLs on this
list, but I have not found anything on the LEGO sites
that I want to buy? I already have 4 RIS 2.0 systems
and some other parts I bought off of eBay/Bricklink.

I think that it's possible that the market has simply
saturated.

After all, there is a definite limit to the amount of
Lego parts you need to build robots that are as complex
as your time/imagination allows.  I also have 4 RIS
and a handful of the other Scout-based systems.  With
some additional sensors and about 50lbs of bulk/unsorted
Lego from eBay and I really don't *need* any more Lego.

The guys who build Lego Railroad, or do massive sculptures
can quite literally never have enough - but with Mindstorms,
the sheer power-to-weight issues limit the amount of Lego
a typical AFOL might need.

That's right - I find that for Mindstorms the stuff I have matches the time I
have, but brickscaping for trains takes vast quantities of bricks - at least
they're basic bricks!

To improve the power to weight ratio you could make a power interface and use RC
motors, but unless someone makes the interface to sell it's a bit prohibitive.

So it's possible that we simply all have all the Lego we
need - except for the occasional really specialised things
(like suddenly needing hundreds of chain links and soccer
balls for the GBC - or a ton of pneumatics so you can
play with pnuematic computers.

Mmmm yes!  I'd buy 100 pneumatic switches at $2 each if they were available.  I
wish flex tubing could be available in 100m reels too.

But I'd be suprised that this would be enough to keep
the Mindstorm division of Lego afloat.

IMHO, if LEGO were to offer piece parts with a minimum
order dollar value, after six months or so, they would
have a good idea of what part 'kits' they could sell
to the AFOL market.

Maybe - but are there REALLY enough people willing to buy
a huge bag of chainlinks to justify the effort of putting
them in boxes - versus churning out another Bionicle or
StarWars set?

Presumably not - or they'd be doing it.

---------------------------- Steve Baker -------------------------

True - to make bulk technic parts worthwhile they'd have to put lots in a bag,
but then people would only buy a few bags, which would fail to meet the volume
sale requirement.  Five pneumatic switches in a bag for $10 might work though -
I could buy 20 bags and others might buy only one.

Mark



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