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Re: POC Exploration Robot
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Fri, 17 Sep 2004 02:12:05 GMT
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In lugnet.robotics, Rob Stehlik wrote:
In lugnet.robotics, Mathieu Lalonde <e0nblue@ssl-mail.com> wrote:

I am posting to this list to ask the community about the feasibility of
such a project, before we invest a significant amount of money into
Mindstorms parts:

The robot would consist of two RCX microcontrollers coupled with a
variety of sensors relevant to our project (ie: temperature, atmospheric
pressure, humidity, light, etc) and a Vision Command Unit (or whatever
Lego calls it’s QuickCam rip-off), all mounted on a 4 wheel drive (or
maybe a synchro drive). It would support two modes of operation:
auto-pilot and manual.

Mathieu,

I think this project is defenitely doable. My first bit of advice: don't build a
synchro. This will add a huge amount of complexity to the project. The great
thing about synchros is the navigation accuracy, but the downside is the
rotating wires and sensors. And with Lego, you are really limited by the size
you can build synchros. The more gearing you have to put in the steering, the
sloppier it will be. But, if you insist on building a synchro, you might get
some ideas on my page here:http://sparky.i989.net/rstehlik/firefighter.html

The first RCX’s IR module would be used for communication, and the
second IR module would be used for proximity detection (in combination
with a light sensor).

My advice: get a custom RCX-compatible IR proximity sensor from hitechnic or
mindsensors or technostuff. You will get much better resolution from it. And it
leaces your IR port free for communication, which will be essential.


<>…So, here come my questions: Is the whole thing feasible? What would
you do differently and why? What major problems are we bound to run
into? What are the drawbacks of the choices we made (BrickOS instead of
NQC or Lego’s devel software, using two RCXs, using a proximity
detector, using a 4 wheel drive vs a synchro drive, etc)? <>

Using two RCX's is... interesting. Splitting up the sensors between controllers
is sometimes difficult to do. Because the IR communication is quite slow, you
want to make sure that the motors correspond closely with the sensors for each
brick, but this isn't always possible.

PS: If some people show interest in our project, I will gladly keep you
guys updated with pictures and info as we progress.

I would be interested. And I would be happy to share from my experience as well.

Rob

Perhaps an RCX and a CyberMaster (radio) would be easier?  That way you can talk
to both at the same time, you get more sensors and the built-in tachos in the
Cybermaster for reasonable dead-reckoning (add an after market compass for
improved accuracy).  I'd also recommend static and active muxes for more sensor
ports.

I use a CyberMaster for movement, touch and IR sensing, and mount an RCX on top
for sonar and compass.  I talk to both simultaneously from a PC and put the
smarts in the PC software.  The RCX loses range before the Cybermaster (10m
range), so I can bring the robot back into IR range.

You could consider a radio camera to remove the tether.  (Bounce the IR off the
ceiling, and have the IR tower on a boom to keep it close to the robot.)

You can get Cybermasters from ebay.



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(...) Mathieu, I think this project is defenitely doable. My first bit of advice: don't build a synchro. This will add a huge amount of complexity to the project. The great thing about synchros is the navigation accuracy, but the downside is the (...) (20 years ago, 16-Sep-04, to lugnet.robotics)

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