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RE: legOS and alternate operating systems [now off topic]
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Date: 
Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:48:21 GMT
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Earle Clubb <eclubb@vt.edu+NoSpam+>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Laurentino Martins [mailto:lmartins@marktest.pt]
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 3:25 PM
To: stephen p spackman
Cc: Lego-Robotics
Subject: Re: legOS and alternate operating systems [now off topic]


At 20:12 30-12-1998 Wednesday , you wrote:
Norman Fair wrote:

I don't know what language was used, but I'd guess it was • object oriented.
Unlike older languages that only compile the routines that • are actually
used, object oriented compiles everything.  That's why a • program written in
C++ is up to 100 times as large as the same C version.

The implication of this statement is that 99% of a traditional C
programme was unused and discarded by the compiler. If so, there's
something mighty unusual about your coding style :-).

My own suspicion is that in fact "object oriented design" as now
promulgated (and as distinct from old-school OO) is actually an
anti-methodology: it legitimates various kinds of ad hoc hacking - like
massive cut-and-paste "code reuse" (true code reuse having to do with
abstraction, not replication) - that are traditionally frowned upon by
academics but pandemic in industry.

...So along comes OO saying that everything you always did in industry
and got sneered at for is now ok - and you get an instant win on PR
(which is usually where languages win or die, sadly).

It's also the case that nowadays *everyone* tries to use C++ while in
the old days C was something you "graduated" to after you already had a
full set of clues. And C++ is about five times more complex than C.

Oh, and of course even I've been known to go, great, I can now BUY a gig
of RAM - let's use a BIG table....

Ach, but I'm cynical in my old age.


Don't force us mailing list subscribers to read your almost
philosophical discussions about programming languages that have
nothing to do with LEGO Robotics. You are waaaay out of topic!

Thank you


Laurentino Martins   *<||:-)

[mailto:lau@mail.telepac.pt]
[http://www.terravista.pt/Enseada/2808/]

--

I, for one, happen to like an occasional OT discussion.  If the subject says
off topic, then it's probably off topic and you don't have to read it if you
don't like off topic discussions.  It only takes two seconds to push the
delete key and five seconds to set up a filter.

Earle

--
Did you check the web site first?: http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics



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(...) Don't force us mailing list subscribers to read your almost philosophical discussions about programming languages that have nothing to do with LEGO Robotics. You are waaaay out of topic! Thank you Laurentino Martins *<||:-) (...) (26 years ago, 30-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics)

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