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RE: The Human Brain
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Date: 
Mon, 7 Aug 2000 11:20:19 GMT
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Marco C. <[marco@soporcel.]NoMoreSpam[pt]>
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I know that I shouldn't post a simple "I agree!" but... well :> I will post
it anyway ;) (ok, I'll try to add something "new" to it)

At 11:06 04-08-2000 -0400, Thomas @ DIG wrote:
Well actually no, but we're not talking about the legos part, we're talking
about the software development reaources available. Compared to some of the
very limited processing capabilities others have used (take a look at some
of Rodney Brook's simpler projects at MIT) the Mindstorm computers are quite
capable. And once we start building subsumption architecture or distributed
processing architecture robots with multiple RCX's on one robot, things
should get very interesting.

I can see where some might think this thread to be outside the Lego-Robotics
subject area; but I would disagree. The reason I am so interested in this
mail list, and in Mindstorms in general is the accesibility of the hardware
technology, and the simplicity of the several software options. The software
(as in almost all digital/electronic hardware/software research areas) is
progressing more slowly than the hardware, but with NQC and some of the
other tools; along with the inexpensive hardware, and the componentization
of relatively complex hardware requirements (sensors, etc.) anyone with a
real interest, and a modicum of knowledge and ability can get into real
robotics issues through mindstorms.

The mindstorm's ability to quickly prototype control and decision ideas in
both hardware and software simultaneously makes it the most promising area I
have seen for experimenting with "mechanical intelligence".

I don't think it is so far afield, and I think it will actually expand the
number of people that would be interested in helping the continuing
improvement of mindstorm development.

I hope the group agrees with me that supporting a sub-thread in building
more intelligence into the software, will simply make the lego-robotics
possibilities more fun.

I must say that I share the views expressed here by Thomas.
I also share the views of Laurentino Martins, presented in a couple of
other posts.

One thing that's easy to implement is the need for "food" = need to
recharge batteries. The RCX knows when it should recharge, so this could be
one of it's basic instinct: To not "die" by starvation.
So, from this instinct derives one kind of WILL: I want to stay alive as
long as I can.

If LEGO released an easy hardware design implementation of a recharge
docking station, the RCX would be much easier to deal with this kind of
needs. It would be a common rotine, to see a RCX in it's docking station
("home"), recharging ("eating") and waiting ("sleeping") while no external
needs ("commands/objectives") were provoqued.

Since there's no LEGO RCX rechargable-kit add-on, there's always the usual
DoItYourself-custom-solution :) like the one Mauro's trying to devise.

Anyway, that was about [WILL], now about [EMOTION].
Here's an interesting post by David Leeper:

At 03:50 31-01-2000 GMT, you wrote:
Hi All,
I've just put up a new web site. It's about a new type of mathematics I
invented about a decade ago. It's called Love, and works well at
mathematically representing emotion. What does this have to do with robots?
Well, I AM building an android.
Here's the URL:
http://alive0.tripod.com/Love.htm
David Leeper (wouldn't deprive Adam of a heart)


I think new list members should do a lot more searching of past threads in
http://www.lugnet.com/robotics/
I find myself reading/discussing about things already discussed. It's not a
bad thing to re-visit and improve upon past threads, but... it's a waste of
resources to keep on going around in circles, not in upward spirals.


____________________
Marco C. aka McViper



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  Re: The Human Brain
 
(...) That's all well and good, but: do you have any ideas for implementing this with Lego? (24 years ago, 4-Aug-00, to lugnet.robotics)

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