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Re: New homepage for LUGNET
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lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.publish.html, lugnet.general
Date: 
Sat, 21 Feb 2004 06:46:16 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Jindrich Kubec wrote:
Tim Courtney wrote:
What I'd *really* like to see is a magazine-style news posting system where
articles (not posts) are written for the LUGNET main page. Take a look at
<http://www.bzpower.com BZPower>, <http://www.brickfilms.com BrickFilms>, or
<http://www.fbtb.net FBTB> among other sites to see what I'm talking about. This
feature wouldn't take up the whole main page, but could have a significant part
of the middle devoted to it.

Wouldn't it be just easier to share the info with those pages?

Too much grunt work. The technical solution is too easy not to implement.

When I was brainstorming the WorldLUG project with Paul Hartzog, one of our key
ideas was a central links database - like an open directory project. Allow
LUGNET members to update their own URLs that are listed in the links database,
and set up a few admins to manage links to non-LUGNET-member sites.

yahoo.lugnet.org? ;-))
Just why 'admins'? Let everybody add anything, let others vote, let
others veto. Add autotools for periodical link checking. Let the person
who added the link that it points nowhere for some time... etc.

I agree that anyone should be able to submit a link for consideration, but I
believe (strongly) that an administrator should have to approve links to be
publicly visible. This prevents links to objectionable sites, and allows another
pair of eyes to check spelling, etc.

There could even be a redirect URL which would always point to the current
location of a site, by way of the central link database. For example, if I own
www.foo.com, and I want to link to www.geocities.com/~bar/glort.html, but I know
that page will probably change in the future, I can link to
www.lugnet.com/link.cgi?id=x (where x is the link ID of the page I'm linking
to). The LUGNET server would then redirect me to
www.geocities.com/~bar/glort.html - {and if that ever changed} the link would
point me in the right direction once the link database was updated.

See my sig. www.atari.org gives third level domains as a redirect.
That's the easiest link to remember (don't like all those ? in urls and
id numbers), works great and is easy to implement.

For branding purposes, I think this is a bad idea for LUGNET. Someone could then
advertise their site as "blah.lugnet.com," and have it interpreted as an actual
part of LUGNET. With this content outside of LUGNET's control, the name could be
abused.

I know IDs are ugly, but they're a simple (technical) solution. You still have
your site's *real* URL, but you also have a redirect available that others can
use to link to you if they want it auto-updated.

Note that people will keep linking to big sites by their name. They aren't going
anywhere. Its the small sites on free systems like GeoCities, etc that would
really benefit from the redirects.

-Tim



Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: New homepage for LUGNET
 
(...) Absolutely! At 1000steine.de you can submit links too: (URL) I have to accept all links and it's not uncommon, that somebody submits links that has really nothing to do with LEGO. So I can delete them before they're public. Leg Godt! René (21 years ago, 21-Feb-04, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.publish.html, lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: New homepage for LUGNET
 
(...) Also, on a practical level, doing redirects (not just DNS records) as subdomains would be prohibitively expensive with the current Lugnet hosting arrangement. (21 years ago, 21-Feb-04, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.publish.html, lugnet.general)
  Re: New homepage for LUGNET
 
(...) Sorry, this doesn't sound too 'open' to me as I fell this is 'power centralisation' (your opinions may differ, of course). I still think that crowd may have 'better' {and definitely faster} decisions than few chosen ones. I think that total (...) (21 years ago, 22-Feb-04, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.publish.html, lugnet.general)

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  Re: New homepage for LUGNET
 
(...) Wouldn't it be just easier to share the info with those pages? (...) yahoo.lugnet.org? ;-)) Just why 'admins'? Let everybody add anything, let others vote, let others veto. Add autotools for periodical link checking. Let the person who added (...) (21 years ago, 20-Feb-04, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.publish.html, lugnet.general)

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