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Re: Unviewable page, useless warning (Was: UCS TIE Crawler)
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lugnet.publish
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Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:18:59 GMT
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"Sproaticus" <jeremy@sproat.us> writes:
> In lugnet.publish, William R. Ward writes:
> > However, the number of users who disable javascript today is probably
> > 0.01% or so...
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> *shrug*
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> Until four things happen:
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> (1) Javascript becomes less of a security/stability risk, and
It hasn't been a risk for a long time. Some early browsers had
Javascript security risks, but they were fixed years ago. It's
nothing like the ActiveX risks in MSIE - but luckily few sites use
ActiveX, so that's safe to turn off (if you must use IE).
> (2) ECMA officially becomes an integral part of the HTML standard, and
The HTML standard is whatever Microsoft says it is, at this point. IE
has such a total domination of the market that any browser that
doesn't support what IE supports is doomed.
> (3) Microsoft and Mozilla and whoever else can agree on a common DOM, and
They're close enough for most Javascript to run on both.
> (4) annoying advertising stops being 99.99% of the Javascript out there,
I'd rather have sites I visit work than avoid the ads, personally, so
I just ignore them. But there are ad-killer programs you can run to
block the ads.
> then I'm keeping my javascript turned off unless I see enough merit to turn
> it on (and even then, it's going on strictly on a site-by-site basis). I
> *know* I'm not the only one doing this.
Then you won't be able to get much out of a great number of sites.
> Oh, and unless you have actual numbers to back up your claim of .01 percent,
> I'm going to stick to my 99.99% claim. :-,
I don't have actual numbers, but the vast majority of users are using
IE and never even look at their configuration settings. It's only a
small minority of power users (like you and me) who take pleasure in
adjusting the preferences for software. Most people dread the
prospect of configuring their computers, and have no concept of
security risks...
--Bill.
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William R Ward bill@wards.net http://www.wards.net/~bill/
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