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Re: Babelfish question (was Re: Cross posting in eu (was: Aaargh!)
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Wed, 22 Dec 1999 03:00:00 GMT
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Thanks Jasper,
I used the link they had at babelfish.altavista.com to create my link's
html, and never saw any mention of the doit=done command. I think I will
add that, as it wasn't mentioned at all, and it doesn't say you can't
anywhere (that I could find). I'm glad you mentioned that trick here.
Thanks!
Know anything about code for cookies? I made a query in this group about
an eBay cookie.
I would like to see your search page. I have one (a little outdated)
linked to on my trade page, and I have a more up to date search page set as
my home page. Maybe I can add some of your other nifty tricks to it!
--
Have fun!
John
The Legos you've been dreaming of...
http://www114.pair.com/ig88/lego
my weird Lego site:
http://www114.pair.com/ig88/
Jasper Janssen wrote in message <38611358.4158019@lugnet.com>...
> Followup-To: lugnet.publish.
>
> On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 06:03:56 GMT, "John DiRienzo"
> <ig88888888@stlnet.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Jasper ,
> > At the following link (near the bottom), I have a link to Horst's page
> > via Babelfish. Have I done it legally? Is there a legal (or acceptable • to
>
> Yup.
>
> For reference, that link is currently:
> http://babelfish.altavista.com/cgi-bin/translate?jss&urltext=
> http://horst-lehner.mausnet.de/lego/
>
> > Babelfish) way to skip the form page entirely? I think you are saying • there
> > is a way, but they don't like you to use it??
>
> As far as I can tell, though skipping the form page is possible, but
> they don't want you to do it. Legal? Anyone's guess. Whether it's
> morally and ethically right is something you'll have to decide for
> yourself.
>
> I personally don't think they really mind a great deal, though.
>
> Especially as, as someone already said, all the links on the page you
> translate will go through the form page whatever you do.
>
> > So this URL:
> > http://babelfish.altavista.com/cgi-bin/translate?doit=done&lp=en_de&urltex • t=
> > http://horst-lehner.mausnet.de/lego/
> > is not acceptable, but would work better than the URL that is currently
> > linked to in my page?
>
> As far as I can tell, the "translate" CGI script accepts the following
> parameters:
>
> jss This is a parameter that is as far as I can
> see used only for logging purposes.
>
> doit=done If this parameter is not present, you will be
> directed through the form page.
>
> lp=[translationcode] Translation-code is one of the following:
>
> <option value="en_fr" >English to French</option>
> <option value="en_de" >English to German</option>
> <option value="en_it" >English to Italian</option>
> <option value="en_pt" >English to Portuguese</option>
> <option value="en_es" >English to Spanish</option>
> <option value="fr_en" >French to English</option>
> <option value="de_en" >German to English</option>
> <option value="it_en" >Italian to English</option>
> <option value="es_en" >Spanish to English</option>
> <option value="pt_en" >Portuguese to English</option>
>
> urltext=[URL] URL, obviously, is the URL to be translated.
>
> So if you use the above, with lp=de_en instead of en_de (treating
> german as if it needed to be translated from english to german is not
> a pretty sight..), you will immediately go to an english translation
> of Horst's page.
>
> If you leave off the doit=done, you will go to the form page, but with
> the appropriate translation languages already selected (which is a
> good thing to add, IMHO), as well as the URL. That is the way they say
> they want you to do it.
>
> Inasmuch as to whether it's right to do it with the parameter
> doit=done, I'm going to go crossthread and reference my earlier
> statements of "if it's on an open webserver, it's published". This is
> a borderline case of that, IMHO.
>
>
> For those of you following along at home, if you have a file on your
> local computer with forms for various search engines (so that from a
> single local page you can use all the search engines you want), here's
> what the essential bits of HTML are in the form for babelfish.
>
> This is from my own search engines page, which I don't have available
> on the web, but which I can mail if you want.
>
> Note that the doit=done line can be added or removed as desired, but
> I've left it in for thos who want it.
>
> ---------
> <a name="babelfish"></a>
> <form action="http://babelfish.altavista.com/cgi-bin/translate?"
> method="POST">
> <b><a href="http://babelfish.altavista.com/">Babelfish</a></b>:
> <input type="hidden" name="doit" value="done">
>
> To translate, type
> <a
> href="http://babelfish.altavista.com/content/help.htm#trans_text">plain
> text</a>
> or the <a
> href="http://babelfish.altavista.com/content/help.htm#trans_web">address
> (URL)</a>
> of a Web page here:
> <p><textarea rows="6" wrap=virtual cols="56"
> name="urltext"></textarea>
> <p>Translate from:
> <select name="lp">
> <option value="en_fr" >English to French</option>
> <option value="en_de" >English to German</option>
> <option value="en_it" >English to Italian</option>
> <option value="en_pt" >English to Portuguese</option>
> <option value="en_es" >English to Spanish</option>
> <option value="fr_en" >French to English</option>
> <option value="de_en" SELECTED>German to English</option>
> <option value="it_en" >Italian to English</option>
> <option value="es_en" >Spanish to English</option>
> <option value="pt_en" >Portuguese to English</option>
> </select>
> <input type="Submit" value="Translate">
> </form>
> ------
>
> Jasper
>
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