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| (...) WAMALUG does not have geographic restrictions. Anyone able to make it to meetings can become a charter member, and *anyone* can join our list and post. Currently, we have members who come to meetings and events from about three hours north and (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) NELUG's (...) Perhaps it is arrogant for outsiders to suggest a change (however, I would also point out that I actually have a minor vested interest in that I have family in the area, so would consider becoming a member of NELUG, and I have a (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) I can tell you it isn't. Let me tell you, it's not easy to say things like this, which is why I'm glad Chris is saying what I think, simply because he knows what I'm going through. It's hard to say this, but yeah- I AM alone here. It's hard to (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) NELUG's (...) That was then, this is now. Though I'm not denying your unanimous vote, but if the rest of NELUG still feels the same on the issue, I'd sure like to see their support for you now. You appear to be the _only_ one sticking up for (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) For the record, we HAVE talked about doing NELUG (and unofficial, like Todd's proposed 4th-of-July thing) things that would include all ages. I think a lot of people from NELUG would be interested in participating in such a group. (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug, lugnet.loc.us.ma.bos)
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| (...) Actually, I *think* what he was suggesting was a LEGO society for all ages, not just one for under-17s. I'm kind of curious...are there other under-18 LEGO fans in the Boston area? Speak up now, please. If there's enough, then two things (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug, lugnet.loc.us.ma.bos)
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| (...) It's ok. It's difficult to convey intentions and tone in newsgroup postings and it's easy to misinterpret. (...) The counter question is: if it's a huge fight to get her in, will the situation be healthy afterward? (...) This might be an (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) True enough! Specifically, I was referring to the fact that you're a woman, and that statistically you're in the vast minority on that qualification alone. Your nationality, too, now that you mention it, but it wasn't what I was thinking of. (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) OK, so replace "what" with "who". I still don't think that changes anything. (...) NELUG's (...) I apologize that I seemed arrogant. This is not so much an attack, and I'm sorry it came off that way. But it IS a very direct and straightforward (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) A few thoughts strike me on this whole issue, and Mike's response: - There is always a possibility of someone being immature or otherwise innapropriate for a group. The issues of telling them they are no longer welcome is no easier if they are (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) I'm quite certain that I never said it was fun for her. I'm also pretty certain that you're not actually reading my messages other than to find lines you can pull out of them and disagree with. I'm sorry that Shiri feels excluded. I really (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) I didn't say "*what* is cool". I said "*who* is cool". That's a completely separate issue. The actual words used may be "mature enough", but it won't feel that way to the recipient of a rejection. It's painful enough for Shiri to be rejected (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) You said it yourself; this is supposed to be fun. How much fun do you think Shiri is having sitting at home wishing she could be in NELUG, but can't, because of an age restriction. If you can find a way that could *possibly* be fun, I'd like (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) What is "cool" and "not cool" has nothing to do with it. And, as I said before, just being a third party, I feel that this is VERY arrogant on NELUG's part as a whole...I think we'd all be satisfied if this were taken case by case; have a (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) That requires us to become judges of character. It's not something I want to get into -- this is supposed to be fun. I can't see how rejecting someone with the words "you're not mature enough" are going to be fun for anyone. Saying "sorry, you (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) What exactly would we tell the person that got denied? "We don't think you're as cool as some other people, so you can't be in our club"? That's not likely to have a positive outcome of any sort. I certainly don't want to be the person saying (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) My sentiments exactly Craig! I've been telling her this forever, maybe now that you did too she'll listen...she's one of the cornerstones of .castle, as far as I'm concerned. And no one would know what a BURPMAN or SPUD is without her...;-) (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) That's easier said then done!!! As I stated in an earlier post, people her age (say between 14-17) are not generally "out of the closet" so to speak about their hobby. Try asking just about anyone in that age group what they think og LEGO, and (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| As the saying almost goes: "If you can't join them, beat them?" If you organised your own LEGO meeting in the New England area that did allow under 18s then I'm sure the Cult-Of-Shiri would make sure it was a success. :) I'm not suggesting a (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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| (...) I agree 100%. (...) Excellent point. I can see the same thing in people I know. I see the liability issue and the maturity issue as the two main factors here. Liability is legally directly linked to age according to our laws, maturity does not (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jul-00, to lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
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