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In lugnet.loc.us.me, Eric Joslin writes:
> In lugnet.loc.us.me, Ryan Dennett writes:
> >
> > I'll start off my saying that everything was very well said, Dave.
> > Although
> > I am still 2 1/3 years away from being considered an AFOL, I can see
> > why you wanted to set up AFOL group, partly because of circumstances
> > that I have mentioned previously. That is why I also suggested that if you
> > (NELUG) decide to allow some JrFOLs to become members, that you
> > only accept those who show maturity and understanding about the whole
> > reason behind this group, and most of those people are going to be over
> > 13 years of age(I'm not saying that you can't have a muture 11yo or an
> > immature 17yo, just that in most cases that is what it's going to be)
>
> The problem is this: While it's easy to say "only mature people above a
> certain age", in practice this becomes unworkable. Why? It requires looking
> the kid, or worse yet, their parent/guardian in the eye and saying "you aren't
> welcome here". That's a rough spot to be in. And what happens if the • person's
> behavior degrades? At what point do you draw the line?
>
> My vote, if we're taking one, is to leave things as they are- 18 being the age
> at which people can join. I know it sucks to be below that age and be mature
> enough to handle hanging with a bunch of adults- I was there once myself- but
> it just seems to be the best solution. It takes care of the really, really • BIG
> issue- legality- and makes a bunch of smaller ones less likely to come up.
>
> I'm not saying that I think that NELUG shouldn't hold events for kids,
> publicised in advance as such and kid-friendly, etc. But I don't think that
> <18 folks should be "members", at general meetings, etc.
>
> eric
Eric, I don't want this to sound like arguing, because that's not what I want
it to be, but what happens if you get, say, a 18 or 19yo who acts up and isn't
on the maturity level that the group would like. How is it any different saying
to him "your maturity level is not up to our standard. Work on it and come back
in a few months and we'll see about your being a member then", then it would be
saying it to a minor or their parent. If the parent has a problem with you
saying that about their child, then as I see it, you really wouldn't want that
parent at your meetings anyway.
I'm not trying to turn your opinion to favor us JrFOLs(because like I've said,
I'm not going to be able to attend meetings, so it doesn't affect me), I just
want to see how you would solve a problem like I mentioned.
Ryan
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