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    For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation —Todd Lehman
   I am starting a list of local users group and clubs. I want it to be as complete as possible and for the history books (and, aw heck, for charts and graphs someday) I'd like to include the official dates of formation of each group/club. As a first (...) (24 years ago, 7-Oct-00, to lugnet.org, lugnet.org.us, lugnet.org.ca, lugnet.org.au, lugnet.org.nl, lugnet.org.it, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.loc.jp, lugnet.announce) !! 
   
        Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation —Dan Boger
     (...) well, not quite. NOVALTC changed it's name in nov '99 to WAMALUG. WAMALTC was created June, 21, 2000... :) (24 years ago, 7-Oct-00, to lugnet.org, lugnet.org.us, lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation —Todd Lehman
     (...) OK, thanks! Updated: (URL) was WAMALUG officially formed then? I've got November 15, 1999 as the earliest seen mention of the name. How close is July 16, 1999 to the official formation date of NOVALTC? Thanks, --Todd (24 years ago, 7-Oct-00, to lugnet.org, lugnet.org.us, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.wamalug)
   
        Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation —Manfred Moolhuysen
     (...) De Bouwsteen (Netherlands) was officialy founded at 1994-11-27 Greetings, M. Moolhuysen (24 years ago, 7-Oct-00, to lugnet.org)
    
         Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation —Todd Lehman
     (...) Wow! OK, great! Updated: (URL) (24 years ago, 7-Oct-00, to lugnet.org, lugnet.org.nl)
   
        Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation —John Gerlach
     (...) What date are you looking for here? If you're looking for the date the 'club' started displaying LEGO trains at shows, it would be sometime in the mid 1980s. When most of the group started getting together? 1993. When we started having any (...) (24 years ago, 7-Oct-00, to lugnet.org)
    
         When was GMLTC started? (was: Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation) —Todd Lehman
     (...) Would anyone happen to know an exact date for either of those? (...) I guess what I'm looking for is the exact date on which GMLTC started calling itself GMLTC (i.e., that it became that entity, however informally) and also, if known, the date (...) (24 years ago, 7-Oct-00, to lugnet.org, lugnet.org.us, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.loc.us.mn.msp)
    
         Re: When was GMLTC started? (was: Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation) —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Why exactly? (both senses...) That is, exactly why do you need to know this, and why does it have to be exact? Would the year be good enough? GMLTC started from one guy and his uncle who loved LEGO and grew from there. It's the granddaddy of (...) (24 years ago, 7-Oct-00, to lugnet.org, lugnet.org.us, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.loc.us.mn.msp)
     
          Re: When was GMLTC started? (was: Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation) —Todd Lehman
       (...) I doesn't have to be exact if there isn't an exact date. I think in most cases there are exact dates...it's just that I'd prefer to know exact dates if at all possible. If not, that's OK too. --Todd (24 years ago, 7-Oct-00, to lugnet.org, lugnet.org.us, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.loc.us.mn.msp)
     
          Re: When was GMLTC started? (was: Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation) —John Kelly
      I don't think I've ever more agreed with Larry <grin> October 1992 or 1994 was when John G and I started to build with Conan and Chuck. John G a little sooner than I, it was right about the time that Conan came to work at the Lego Imagination Center (...) (24 years ago, 8-Oct-00, to lugnet.org, lugnet.org.us, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.loc.us.mn.msp)
    
         Re: When was GMLTC started? —Steve Demlow
     (...) 1985 was the first year a layout was taken to a show. The other date is much more fluid. (I wasn't around for either; this is based on Conan's comments today while we were trashing the old layout.) (...) That is probably much closer to your (...) (24 years ago, 7-Oct-00, to lugnet.org, lugnet.org.us, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.loc.us.mn.msp)
    
         Re: When was GMLTC started? —John Neal
      (...) As for an exact date, I'd use the date J-1 registered gmltc.org. (...) Nope. Can't take it. I had originally thought about the name "Upper Midwest LEGO Train Club". J-1 had thought about "Greater Minnesota LEGO Train Club", and even (...) (24 years ago, 7-Oct-00, to lugnet.org, lugnet.org.us, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.loc.us.mn.msp)
   
        Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation —James Brown
     (...) I think NALUG "technically" started about a week before this date, but the date can/should stand as is - the official announcement on Lugnet being about the best indicator. :) James (24 years ago, 7-Oct-00, to lugnet.org)
    
         Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation —Todd Lehman
     (...) Okie dokie, and you were the one who made the announcement, (URL) I'll take that as gold. Updated list with "?" removed: (URL) (24 years ago, 7-Oct-00, to lugnet.org, lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
   
        Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation —James J. Trobaugh
     (...) 11.14.1998 works for me, I believe that was the date of the first public presentation of the NGLTC layout back when it was the membership of one. But it did soon grow to two members by the end of the show. Before that it was just a layout in (...) (24 years ago, 8-Oct-00, to lugnet.org)
   
        Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation —Mario Ferrari
     You guessed it right, November 16th 1999 is the date ITLUG was born. Ciao Mario "Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> ha scritto nel messaggio news:G21KKp.JDs@lugnet.com... (...) and (...) each (...) mention (...) formation (...) dates (...) (U.S.A.) (...) (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.org)
   
        Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation —Eric Kingsley
     (...) <snip> (...) While 1999-07-16 is the first mention of the name NELUG I think we have decided that 1999-08-10 is probably more appropriate for an anniversary date as that was the date of our first meeting (Ideas coming together). See here. (...) (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.org)
    
         Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation —Todd Lehman
     (...) If at all possible, I wanna list what each group feels/defines is its official birthdate. Date of first mention is a reasonable approximator, but just that. :-) Here's the updated table: (URL) (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)
    
         Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) In the spirit of approximating, I offer the following corrections... Date Group/Club Name 1985 CWC-CW LEGO Railroad - now GMLTC "later grew into GMLTC" rather than "now GMLTC" (?) 1998-09-29 PNLTC: Pacific Northwest LEGO Train Club (U.S.A.) I (...) (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.org)
    
         Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation —Todd Lehman
     (...) okie dokie (...) Hmm. --Todd (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.org, lugnet.trains.org)
    
         Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation —Dan Parker
     PNLTC 'organized' or, rather, met under the name in June 1997 so that applications could be submitted for the Sept. and Oct. GATS venues. We also started building tables at that time. Initial activity and pics were graciously posted by Ben on his (...) (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.org, lugnet.trains.org)
   
        Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation —Frank Filz
     (...) This could be backed up to 2000-01-15, I have an e-mail from Mike Walsh dated then where he reports securing www.nclug.net. Our discussion about forming the group however extends back to 1999-08-06 or thereabouts, here is a pointer to the (...) (24 years ago, 16-Dec-00, to lugnet.org)
   
        LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Todd Lehman
     (...) Here is an updated list. I am still missing a fair amount of info...any definitive info is appreciated! Please post as a follow-up to this post and I will update the chart. Thanks! Looks like we're almost to 40 now... :) --Todd 1. 1985 CWC-CW (...) (24 years ago, 4-Mar-01, to lugnet.org, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.wamalug, lugnet.org.ca.viclug, lugnet.org.us.gmlug, lugnet.org.us.texlug, lugnet.org.us.wafol, lugnet.loc.jp, lugnet.org.it.itlug, lugnet.org.us.dixielug, lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.org.au, lugnet.org.us.cmlug, lugnet.org.us.nclug, lugnet.org.us.lugola, lugnet.org.ca.vlc, lugnet.org.us.sealug, lugnet.org.us.lugco, lugnet.org.us.gflug)
    
         Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Mario Ferrari
      (...) and (...) Hi Todd, the thread where we voted our current name started on 1999-11-16 and ended 1999-11-17. I think that 1999-11-16 is OK. Ciao Mario (24 years ago, 4-Mar-01, to lugnet.org, lugnet.org.it.itlug)
    
         Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Tony Priestman
      On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Todd Lehman (<3aa29f04.91709731@...gnet.com>) wrote at 20:18:59 (...) At this point, I'm inclined to say that there is no such thing as UKLUG, beyond the web site put together by Simon Denscombe. There is no evidence of any (...) (24 years ago, 4-Mar-01, to lugnet.org, lugnet.loc.uk)
    
         Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Dave Low
      (...) Should we confirm these dates, note that Studs is STUDS, and ask for BUGS to be added (as of 2000-11-26 cf (URL) (24 years ago, 4-Mar-01, to lugnet.org.au)
     
          Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Peter White
      (...) I thought it was 'Studs' or 'studs', since it is not an acronym. What about the MUGS and HUGS ? pete.w (usually not this pedantic) (24 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.org.au)
     
          MUGS (was Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update) —Ross Crawford
      I thought you were SLUGS, and the fests were StudFests. And I don't know if there's any "official" inception date for MUG, but I guess we could say 2001-01-26 as when we voted in our spokesman? MUGs wanna comment? ROSCO Peter White (...) (24 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.org.au)
     
          Re: MUGS (was Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update) —Peter White
       (...) I'm definitely a SLUG, the others may be studs as well. (24 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.org.au)
      
           Re: MUGS (was Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update) —Dave Low
       (...) In my little mind I'm a member of STUDS (capitalised, isn't an acronym, just funny in a non-PC non-genderspecific in-joke kind of way) which is the Sydney regional Lego Users Group (SLUG/SydLUG). Our bi-monthly gatherings are variously (...) (24 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.org.au)
      
           Re: MUGS (was Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update) —Kerry Raymond
        (...) it) (...) Yes, a SLUGfest sounds like either: 1. a night at a French restaurant eating snails 2. an event of the World Wrestling Federation It's up to you Sydneysiders, but does the self-image of being an eater of molluscs or having the same (...) (24 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.org.au)
     
          Re: MUGS (was Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update) —Martin Scragg
      (...) I think the first real meeting was mid 1999, Ben would know for sure, so I would say that is the date. Did we have the inaugural MLTC (VLTC) meeting yesterday? Martin (S) (24 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.org.au)
     
          Re: MUGS (was Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update) —Ross Crawford
       Martin Scragg <martin.scragg@s1.com.au> wrote in message news:G9pLEr.DAC@lugnet.com... (...) wanna (...) Probably. I just wasn't sure when MUG was first uttered in this context... (...) Reckon so. And I just uploaded the track design to brickshelf, (...) (24 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.org.au)
    
         Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Kai Brodersen
      MichLTC or MLTC any way is fine but it was created on January 12th 2001 (...) (24 years ago, 4-Mar-01, to lugnet.org)
    
         Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Robin Werner
      (...) The GFLTC was formed at the H&R Train Show (Sat, Oct 2, 1999) where I met Dennis and Nick. We talk for an hour and decided to start the club. (...) The GFLUG started at a GFLTC meeting on June 21, 2000. This is where KK Quah and I decided to (...) (24 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.org)
     
          Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Todd Lehman
      (...) OK, got it -- both dates. Page updated. Thanks! --Todd (24 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.org)
    
         Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Mark Sandlin
      (...) SEALUG held our first meeting on September 2, 2000, IIRC. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm not remembering correctly. What's the 5-28 date from? ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (24 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.org)
     
          Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Mark Rideout
      (...) I think it was a little before that - The first post to the Lugnet Sealug group was on Aug 24, 2000. I would have thought that we met before we got our official Lugnet group. Maybe in July? -mark (2) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.org)
     
          Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Mark Rideout
      (...) Just following up to add the Sealug group back to this chain. -mark(2) (22 years ago, 24-Mar-03, to lugnet.org, lugnet.org.us.sealug)
    
         Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Timothy D. Freshly
       "Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:3aa29f04.917097...net.com... [snip] (...) Todd: For these last three, the year should be 2001, not 2000. Just a minor correction. :-) Thanks. Tim (24 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.org)
     
          Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Todd Lehman
      (...) d'Oh! Time warp! (...) No, thank you! --Todd (24 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.org)
    
         Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Carlo Ottolina
      "Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:3aa29f04.917097...net.com... (...) (Italy) Todd, GBLTC was mainly a joke. (It really never existed....) The real name is: ITLTC: _IT_alian _L_ego _T_rain _C_lub. (URL) you can see in: (URL) (...) (24 years ago, 6-Mar-01, to lugnet.org)
    
         Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Franklin W. Cain
      Todd, Here are the dates for Dixie LUG: 1st meeting of DixieLUG - 22 January 2000 2nd meeting of DixieLUG - 8 April 2000 3rd meeting of DixieLUG - 8 July 2000 4th meeting of DixieLUG - 26 August 2000 Thanks, Franklin (24 years ago, 6-Mar-01, to lugnet.org)
     
          Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Todd Lehman
      (...) OK, so is 22 Jan 2000 the "official" date that your organization was formed? Or was that just its first official meeting? If I'm reading this post correctly... (URL) came into being on 19 Dec 1999? --Todd (24 years ago, 6-Mar-01, to lugnet.org, lugnet.org.us.dixielug, lugnet.loc.us.ga)
     
          Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Franklin W. Cain
      (...) First ever face-to-face meeting. (...I'm hesitant to use the word "official", though, in response to some spirited discussion quite a while ago regarding which term to use: "members" vs. "attendees". One of the more vigorously defended (...) (24 years ago, 7-Mar-01, to lugnet.org.us.dixielug)
    
         Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Todd Trotter
      Hello Todd, LUGCO was formed 2001-01-22 Thanks, Todd Trotter (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-01, to lugnet.org)
    
         Re: LUG & LTC dates of formation update —Mark & Milissa Millère
     Todd, LCLTC Low Country LTC is in Charleston, SC First meeting was 10-23-01. We have a 4 members. Thanx, Mark #525 (22 years ago, 4-Dec-02, to lugnet.org)
   
        Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation —Ross Crawford
   (...) LegOz should be removed, it was only ever really a temporary name. You should add: 1999-12-02 MUGS (Australia) 2003-03-23 M>ltc (Australia) ROSCO (18 years ago, 16-Feb-07, to lugnet.org)
   
        Re: For the history books -- LUG & LTC dates of formation —Jude Beaudin
   (...) X-posted to .admin.suggestions to make sure Rene has a shot of seeing it. Jude (18 years ago, 16-Feb-07, to lugnet.org, lugnet.admin.suggestions)
 

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