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Re: OS advocacy (was: Re: Perl rules!)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek
Date: 
Wed, 28 Jul 1999 03:22:55 GMT
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> Mike Stanley wrote:
> > 
> > Christopher L. Weeks <c576653@cclabs.missouri.edu> wrote:
> > > > For $2800 I can put together a P3 system that will perform as well, if
> > > > not better, than anything you can do on that G3.
> > > 
> > > What's your hourly rate of pay?  Add the time it takes you to research
> > > current prices, order parts from different vendors, assemble the box,
> > > tweak the OS, etc. and then where does the price fall?
> > 
> > Well, that's a good point.  I could buy a prebuilt machine that
> > matches that G3's specs for $1626.  Basically the same machine I just
> 
> Wait.  I missed something.  So you can spend $2800 piecing together a
> machine comparable to a $3000 Mac, or you can spend $1626 buying it
> prebuilt?  The numbers aren't making sense to me.

No, what I meant, even if it didn't come through clearly, was that if
I were to choose to spend $2800 on a computer (which I would not NEED
to do, unless I wanted a true behemoth of a machine) I could put one
together that would outperform, in any way, the $2811 monitor-less G3.

I could buy (prebuilt) a system that matches or exceeds that G3, spec
for spec for $1600.  Maybe the G3 would be faster at some things,
maybe the P3 would be faster at others.  But for $1200 less, I could
get a machine that would be, in most every way, equal to the G3.

Were I to choose to spend $2800, either on a prebuilt or selfbuilt
machine, I can guarantee you the G3 wouldn't touch it, not in
Photoshop or anything else.  Heck, I'm about to put together a dual
550 machine (366's oc'ed to 550) that would probably smoke the G3, and
I won't spend a total of $800 on it, if that much.

> Yeah :(  And schools is what I want out of.  So I'm looking at graphics
> houses, but they want graphic designers.

I hear you.  I've just taken over administering the labs at UTK.
Luckily, until I get the PCs in shape, I don't have to deal with the
Macs.  By the time I do have to deal with them we'll probably have
phased out even more of them than we have already.  When I came to UTK
I'd say there were 6-10 Macs for every PC.  It's the other way around
now, and getting worse/better.

> I know...I guess there are just some of us who click with the MacOS
> better than windows.

Not sure why.  I've probably used a Mac longer than most people I
know, having used them from day 1 (our school was a pilot project).
Even today I probably log as many hours on a Mac as many casual users.
They both work - and I don't think I "click" with either platform - I
just use them.

> Anyway, I use whatever they put in front of me, I just like Macs better.
> (And I don't even think Bill Gates is evil, like many seem to.)

I'm about to pull an old 8500/150 out of storage to use for a while as
a secondary machine.  Very secondary, though.  I'll be using my new P3
most of the time.

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(...) Let us know how it goes, won't you? I've heard others say the 366 can be reliably clocked to 550, but I'm skeptical right now. I do assume you're talking Mendocinos here? Jasper (27 years ago, 5-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
  Re: OS advocacy (was: Re: Perl rules!)
 
(...) Celerons. And it didn't work. I'm sure there ARE 366's that will oc to 550 just fine, especially since I could buy pre-tested ones that are guaranteed to run stable, but all 5 of the ones a friend at a store tried either wouldn't post at all (...) (27 years ago, 5-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)

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