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Re: OS advocacy (was: Re: Perl rules!)
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Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:15:15 GMT
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Mike Stanley wrote:

Christopher L. Weeks <c576653@cclabs.missouri.edu> wrote:
For $2800 I can put together a P3 system that will perform as well, if
not better, than anything you can do on that G3.

What's your hourly rate of pay?  Add the time it takes you to research
current prices, order parts from different vendors, assemble the box,
tweak the OS, etc. and then where does the price fall?

Well, that's a good point.  I could buy a prebuilt machine that
matches that G3's specs for $1626.  Basically the same machine I just

Wait.  I missed something.  So you can spend $2800 piecing together a
machine comparable to a $3000 Mac, or you can spend $1626 buying it
prebuilt?  The numbers aren't making sense to me.

ordered for myself at work minus the 21" monitor.  And I won't have to
buy a real keyboard and mouse in addition to the piece of junk toy
ones they ship with the G3.  :)  (And don't say they're usable - I
know several mega-Mac dudes who wouldn't touch either with a ten foot
pole)

No, I wouldn't claim that.  I hate those things.  I can deal with it on
a plane using a laptop, but not at my desk.

Well, if your main administering experience is only with Macs I can
see why it might be hard finding a job.  Mainly because with the
exception of tiny niche pockets like graphics and such, the only place
in the world you find a network of Macs is at schools.

Yeah :(  And schools is what I want out of.  So I'm looking at graphics
houses, but they want graphic designers.

Dunno what to say to that.  Windows "feels" just fine to me.  It works
most of the time, as does the MacOS work most of the time.

I know...I guess there are just some of us who click with the MacOS
better than windows.

As I point out above, those limits have pros and cons.  It's quick and
easy to upgrade your hardware because there are so few producers to
choose from.

Well, that's one way of looking at it.  It's also much more expensive
to do so since there are so few producers to choose from.

Right.  I stated that there were pros _and_ cons.

Going from 95 -> 98 is a bit more than patching the OS.  And I'm not

Why?  It included AFAIK less system alterations than moving from system
7.5 to 8.0 which was just a little system upgrade.

With 7.5.1, 7.5.3, 7.5.5, 7.6, etc along the way, I suppose?

No, I went from 7.5.1 to 8.0.  And the point was that the system changed
more than it seemed to when migrating from '95 ot '98.

Anyway, I use whatever they put in front of me, I just like Macs better.
(And I don't even think Bill Gates is evil, like many seem to.)

--
Sincerely,

Christopher L. Weeks
central Missouri, USA



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  Re: OS advocacy (was: Re: Perl rules!)
 
(...) No, what I meant, even if it didn't come through clearly, was that if I were to choose to spend $2800 on a computer (which I would not NEED to do, unless I wanted a true behemoth of a machine) I could put one together that would outperform, in (...) (25 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)

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  Re: Perl rules!
 
(...) Ok, so asking for a cheaper machine than a hand-me-down is a bit misleading, don't you think? I could just as easily say that Rachael's P2-350 was a hand-me-down for her (since it was) because it used to be my machine. In fact, since it hasn't (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)

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