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Re: OS advocacy (was: Re: Perl rules!)
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Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:15:15 GMT
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Mike Stanley wrote:
> 
> Christopher L. Weeks <c576653@cclabs.missouri.edu> wrote:
> > > For $2800 I can put together a P3 system that will perform as well, if
> > > not better, than anything you can do on that G3.
> > 
> > What's your hourly rate of pay?  Add the time it takes you to research
> > current prices, order parts from different vendors, assemble the box,
> > tweak the OS, etc. and then where does the price fall?
> 
> Well, that's a good point.  I could buy a prebuilt machine that
> matches that G3's specs for $1626.  Basically the same machine I just

Wait.  I missed something.  So you can spend $2800 piecing together a
machine comparable to a $3000 Mac, or you can spend $1626 buying it
prebuilt?  The numbers aren't making sense to me.

> ordered for myself at work minus the 21" monitor.  And I won't have to
> buy a real keyboard and mouse in addition to the piece of junk toy
> ones they ship with the G3.  :)  (And don't say they're usable - I
> know several mega-Mac dudes who wouldn't touch either with a ten foot
> pole)

No, I wouldn't claim that.  I hate those things.  I can deal with it on
a plane using a laptop, but not at my desk.

> Well, if your main administering experience is only with Macs I can
> see why it might be hard finding a job.  Mainly because with the
> exception of tiny niche pockets like graphics and such, the only place
> in the world you find a network of Macs is at schools.

Yeah :(  And schools is what I want out of.  So I'm looking at graphics
houses, but they want graphic designers.

> Dunno what to say to that.  Windows "feels" just fine to me.  It works
> most of the time, as does the MacOS work most of the time.

I know...I guess there are just some of us who click with the MacOS
better than windows.

> > As I point out above, those limits have pros and cons.  It's quick and
> > easy to upgrade your hardware because there are so few producers to
> > choose from.
> 
> Well, that's one way of looking at it.  It's also much more expensive
> to do so since there are so few producers to choose from.

Right.  I stated that there were pros _and_ cons.

> > > Going from 95 -> 98 is a bit more than patching the OS.  And I'm not
> > 
> > Why?  It included AFAIK less system alterations than moving from system
> > 7.5 to 8.0 which was just a little system upgrade.
> 
> With 7.5.1, 7.5.3, 7.5.5, 7.6, etc along the way, I suppose?

No, I went from 7.5.1 to 8.0.  And the point was that the system changed
more than it seemed to when migrating from '95 ot '98.

Anyway, I use whatever they put in front of me, I just like Macs better.
(And I don't even think Bill Gates is evil, like many seem to.)

--
Sincerely,

Christopher L. Weeks
central Missouri, USA



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  Re: OS advocacy (was: Re: Perl rules!)
 
(...) No, what I meant, even if it didn't come through clearly, was that if I were to choose to spend $2800 on a computer (which I would not NEED to do, unless I wanted a true behemoth of a machine) I could put one together that would outperform, in (...) (27 years ago, 28-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)

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(...) Ok, so asking for a cheaper machine than a hand-me-down is a bit misleading, don't you think? I could just as easily say that Rachael's P2-350 was a hand-me-down for her (since it was) because it used to be my machine. In fact, since it hasn't (...) (27 years ago, 25-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)

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