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Re: Math/Optics Problem
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Tue, 14 Aug 2001 15:23:55 GMT
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David:

In lugnet.off-topic.geek, Jacob Sparre Andersen writes:
#2 If not, will it at least be constant for the same zoom level?
No.

#3 are there any other "missing pieces" to the formula?
Yes: Focus (I think).

#4 what is the formula for figuring out the distance between the two
objects?

dist. from camera = (fisheye const.)*(actual height)/(photo
height) + (small obscure camera dependent constant)

Hmm... So both the zoom and the focus affect the fisheye constant?

<activate brain/>

Hmmm... Maybe not. The focus is probably rather affecting
the "small obscure" supposedly only "camera dependent"
supposedly "constant".

How exactly does the focus change it?

I think I have to open a camera (or an optics textbook) and
have a look.

I guess I'm imagining the same actual
image in and out of focus and not seeing actual change in the image's shapes
& relative sizes... which would mean that it *would* be constant for the
same zoom level? Or am I not figuring something right?

I think you _are_ figuring something right.

#5 can I use that same formula to find out how far away from the *camera*
the objects are?

Yes, but then you have to figure out the value of the "small
obscure camera dependent constant" .

Just curious-- does this value indicate the distance that the light has to
travel before hitting the focus point? For example, let's say that there's a
maze of mirrors accounting for 12 feet of light-travel distance between the
light entry point of the camera and the final "focal point". Would this
constant then be somewhere in the vicinity of 12 feet?

Yes, more or less (I think).

The right thing to do is - no matter what - to calibrate
based on known parameters. I have at some point derived the
equations for 3D reconstruction from a collection of images.
That would solve your problem (and a bit more) without
having to care about the actual whereabouts of the camera.

Jacob (who should stick to the kinds of physics he knows)
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http://hugin.ldraw.org/Jacob/edb/digitale_nyheder
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(...) Hmm... So both the zoom and the focus affect the fisheye constant? How exactly does the focus change it? I guess I'm imagining the same actual image in and out of focus and not seeing actual change in the image's shapes & relative sizes... (...) (23 years ago, 14-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)

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